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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
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      Restricting outbound traffic is a stupid technical answer to a management problem.

      You will spend more time dealing with crap issues than you will ever gain as a benefit to doing something like this.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
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        Wait, I lied, I do block outbound TCP port 25. I don't need my public IP blacklisted.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @1337
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          @pete-s said in Firewall rules for outgoing traffic:

          What is best practice for SMB?

          SMB the protocol? Or SMB meaning small business?

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            @scottalanmiller said in Firewall rules for outgoing traffic:

            @pete-s said in Firewall rules for outgoing traffic:

            What is best practice for SMB?

            SMB the protocol? Or SMB meaning small business?

            Small business. The enterprises I've seen have heavy restrictions on outbound traffic..

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            • pmonchoP
              pmoncho @1337
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              @pete-s said in Firewall rules for outgoing traffic:

              @scottalanmiller said in Firewall rules for outgoing traffic:

              @pete-s said in Firewall rules for outgoing traffic:

              What is best practice for SMB?

              SMB the protocol? Or SMB meaning small business?

              Small business. The enterprises I've seen have heavy restrictions on outbound traffic..

              I use to limit outbound traffic but like @JaredBusch said, it became hard to manage with all crap issues and small numerous changes constantly. The outbound rules started to add up and after much deliberation, we decided to scrap it.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @1337
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                @pete-s said in Firewall rules for outgoing traffic:

                @scottalanmiller said in Firewall rules for outgoing traffic:

                @pete-s said in Firewall rules for outgoing traffic:

                What is best practice for SMB?

                SMB the protocol? Or SMB meaning small business?

                Small business. The enterprises I've seen have heavy restrictions on outbound traffic..

                Ah ha, that's not what we had all thought. So that changes our answers a bit.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  I'm with the others, then. Blocking port 25 can be good. Beyond that, basically nothing should normally be blocked.

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                  • KellyK
                    Kelly
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                    Outside of port 25 it is a business decision, not a technical one. I worked at a company that was contractually required to whitelist outbound ports. Thankfully we didn't have requirements on which ones we had to whitelist (hooray for government contracting). So we did. We analyzed the outbound ports being used and opened them up (except for some really strange ones where we talked to originator first).

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @1337
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                      @pete-s said in Firewall rules for outgoing traffic:

                      Do you use a http proxy?

                      I have two http/https proxies set up for special systems and PCs that need LAN access and very specific white listed domains on the internet... but all else is blocked.

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                      • Mike DavisM
                        Mike Davis
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                        Outside of port 25, the only other time I have to do anything with outbound traffic is when I have load balancing across two ISPs enabled. Applications like voice and some secure sites that don't like the source address bouncing around require that.

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite
                          last edited by black3dynamite

                          Block all DNS servers except for the one you provide via DHCP?

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                          • PhlipElderP
                            PhlipElder
                            last edited by PhlipElder

                            Deny All by default.
                            If on-premises Exchange server then SMTP 25 TLS 587 only from there.
                            DNS UDP/TCP queries to the local DC(s) only.
                            HTTP/HTTPS global allow.

                            • Edge should support subnet/IP/Country and other forms of blacklist blocking.

                            AD based Group permissions at the edge if required.
                            WiFi/WAPs all on separate subnet and VLAN with DHCP handled by the controller or edge.

                            We find out really quick if there are any vendors asking for alternate port access to their "services". One example is the copier provider's reports that need to be "filed" once a month at a client site. Kludge system using old tech.

                            We had an absentminded owner click on a link with the baddie being blocked at the edge because it was trying to download via alternate port.

                            Those are the basics. One can tailor to the client's specific needs.

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                            • PhlipElderP
                              PhlipElder @black3dynamite
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                              @black3dynamite said in Firewall rules for outgoing traffic:

                              Block all DNS servers except for the one you provide via DHCP?

                              Correct.

                              If a SPAMbot get's in and tries to run itself independent of the production network it can't.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                                @black3dynamite said in Firewall rules for outgoing traffic:

                                Block all DNS servers except for the one you provide via DHCP?

                                Not necessarily via DHCP, but whatever ones you have approved. 1.1.1.1, 8.8.8.8, for example.

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