Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?
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@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@tim_g said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
I think that wigs are simply a category of hat. What do you think?
I'd like to take it a step further and say a wig IS a hat.
Your reasons for wearing them may be different, but that doesn't change what it is.
Yes, I believe a wig IS a hat, that's my feeling. But I do feel that wigs are an identifiable "kind of" hat. If a wig is only a hat, we'd never be sure which thing is a wig and which is a non-wig hat. But we all, generally, know when we have a wig. No one has a cowboy hat on and has someone think it is a wig.
But oddly, people are allowed to wear wigs in places where you are required to remove your hat. UNLESS it is for religious reasons, then you have to remove it. So religiously, wigs are hats, but socially they are often given a pass. but often girls' hats are given a pass on rules and boys' hats are not.
I actually did my senior thesis on hat wearing, believe it or not.
Social convention has very little to do with the definition of a hat vs a wig. A wig is a replacement to a loss of hair at the top of your head to which no one is expected to remove their wig in church or at a social convention where it is customary to "remove your hat and stand".
Where have you actually seen people remove their wigs at due to social convention?!
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@tim_g said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
Yes, I believe a wig IS a hat, that's my feeling. But I do feel that wigs are an identifiable "kind of" hat. If a wig is only a hat, we'd never be sure which thing is a wig and which is a non-wig hat. But we all, generally, know when we have a wig. No one has a cowboy hat on and has someone think it is a wig.
Perhaps style then?
Is a sombrero or baseball cap "categories" or "styles" of hats? I think style betters servers what kind of hat a wig would be than category.
Yes, those would be specific categories of hats. Technically sombrero is misused, it literally just means hat. So used correctly, a wig is a sombrero, as is a fedora or a baseball cap.
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@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@tim_g said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
Yes, I believe a wig IS a hat, that's my feeling. But I do feel that wigs are an identifiable "kind of" hat. If a wig is only a hat, we'd never be sure which thing is a wig and which is a non-wig hat. But we all, generally, know when we have a wig. No one has a cowboy hat on and has someone think it is a wig.
Perhaps style then?
Is a sombrero or baseball cap "categories" or "styles" of hats? I think style betters servers what kind of hat a wig would be than category.
Yes, those would be specific categories of hats. Technically sombrero is misused, it literally just means hat. So used correctly, a wig is a sombrero, as is a fedora or a baseball cap.
Okay bad example then due to the name, but i'm sure you still got my point.
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Now a fedora is a group of hats. Many hats, including cowboy hats, are types of fedoras. But wigs are not fedoras.
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@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@tim_g said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
Yes, I believe a wig IS a hat, that's my feeling. But I do feel that wigs are an identifiable "kind of" hat. If a wig is only a hat, we'd never be sure which thing is a wig and which is a non-wig hat. But we all, generally, know when we have a wig. No one has a cowboy hat on and has someone think it is a wig.
Perhaps style then?
Is a sombrero or baseball cap "categories" or "styles" of hats? I think style betters servers what kind of hat a wig would be than category.
Yes, those would be specific categories of hats. Technically sombrero is misused, it literally just means hat. So used correctly, a wig is a sombrero, as is a fedora or a baseball cap.
Unless you are defining a wig as "a distinctive head covering worn as a symbol of office" then a wig isn't a hat. It is simply an accessory to provide an appearance of not being bald. . .
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@dustinb3403 said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
It is simply an accessory to provide an appearance of not being bald. . .
A common use of any hat.
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Many people wear hats to avoid looking bald.
Many people with hair wear wigs.
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And a WIG is define as "a manufactured covering of natural or synthetic hair for the head"
So drop the topic.
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@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
Now a fedora is a group of hats. Many hats, including cowboy hats, are types of fedoras. But wigs are not fedoras.
Type, style, category... yeah... wigs are a category of hat.
- Hat
- Fedora
- Cowboy hat
- Wig
- ?
- Fedora
- Hat
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@dustinb3403 said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
And a WIG is define as "a manufactured covering of natural or synthetic hair for the head"
So drop the topic.
That Wig definition would make it a hat, by definition.
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@tim_g said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
Now a fedora is a group of hats. Many hats, including cowboy hats, are types of fedoras. But wigs are not fedoras.
Type, style, category... yeah... wigs are a category of hat.
- Hat
- Fedora
- Cowboy hat
- Wig
- Topee
- Fedora
- Hat
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@nerdydad said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@tim_g said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
Now a fedora is a group of hats. Many hats, including cowboy hats, are types of fedoras. But wigs are not fedoras.
Type, style, category... yeah... wigs are a category of hat.
- Hat
- Fedora
- Cowboy hat
- Wig
- Topee
- Fedora
Brilliant!
- Hat
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Guys you arr doing it wrong. You cant discuss this without a ton of alcohol.
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@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@dustinb3403 said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
And a WIG is define as "a manufactured covering of natural or synthetic hair for the head"
So drop the topic.
That Wig definition would make it a hat, by definition.
Did you even read the definition. . . Only if it is used to display status of an office could you call it a hat.
Otherwise it's a manufactured cover
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@tim_g said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
Now a fedora is a group of hats. Many hats, including cowboy hats, are types of fedoras. But wigs are not fedoras.
Type, style, category... yeah... wigs are a category of hat.
- Hat
- Fedora
- Cowboy hat
- Wig
- ?
- Fedora
- Hat
- Fedora
- Cowboy hat
- Red Hat
- Jared Hat
- Wig
- Blonde
- Punk Rock
- Silly powered thing
- Fedora
- Hat
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@matteo-nunziati said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
Guys you arr doing it wrong. You cant discuss this without a ton of alcohol.
And you think that we are not?
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@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@matteo-nunziati said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
Guys you arr doing it wrong. You cant discuss this without a ton of alcohol.
And you think that we are not?
This hasnt derailed enough... So not a ton at least
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@dustinb3403 said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@dustinb3403 said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
And a WIG is define as "a manufactured covering of natural or synthetic hair for the head"
So drop the topic.
That Wig definition would make it a hat, by definition.
Did you even read the definition. . . Only if it is used to display status of an office could you call it a hat.
I did read it, that's how I knew it was a hat by definition.
A manufactured head covering would always be a hat. That it is or isn't made of real or synthetic hair would help us know whether or not the kind of hat is a wig or not. That wig definitely makes it really clear that all wigs have to be hats as you can't have a thing meet that definition without being a hat.
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@matteo-nunziati said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@matteo-nunziati said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
Guys you arr doing it wrong. You cant discuss this without a ton of alcohol.
And you think that we are not?
This hasnt derailed enough... So not a ton at least
This is one of the most on topic threads ever.
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@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@dustinb3403 said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@dustinb3403 said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
And a WIG is define as "a manufactured covering of natural or synthetic hair for the head"
So drop the topic.
That Wig definition would make it a hat, by definition.
Did you even read the definition. . . Only if it is used to display status of an office could you call it a hat.
I did read it, that's how I knew it was a hat by definition.
A manufactured head covering would always be a hat. That it is or isn't made of real or synthetic hair would help us know whether or not the kind of hat is a wig or not. That wig definitely makes it really clear that all wigs have to be hats as you can't have a thing meet that definition without being a hat.
But a wig is only considered a hat if it also meets the definition of a hat. A hat is used to display status of an office (at least with one of the definitions.)
Since most people aren't out wearing wigs to show that they have some sort of clout, wigs aren't fucking hats.
If this was british parliament, then sure your wig is a hat due to the convention and standard of showing status.
