Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?
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@rojoloco said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
Wig or hat?
Hat.
It's a functional accessory first with the goal of being fucking stupid.
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@nerdydad said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@dustinb3403 said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@danp said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
I propose that a hat is just a hairless wig. :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_closed_eyes:
This I can agree with if the goal is to accessorize one's head with an object, the goal being appearance over function.
By this definition, sunglasses could also be labeled as a wig.
Sunglasses by design are to protect ones eyes from the sun. . . hence any fashion made after the initial creation is purely an adaptation of the function of what the base object is doing.
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@rojoloco said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
...or perhaps this one is the top of Guy Fieri's head?
This accessory has the goal of whoever wearing it gets murdered. . . . while protecting your vision from the sun. . .
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@dustinb3403 said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@dustinb3403 said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@dustinb3403 said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
While wigs are meant to make you look as if you have hair, I don't think that they provide any real protection. . .
A wig can and does provide the same "protection" as a hat. Consider a skull cap or simple bob, what protection to they afford that a wig does not?
Ok. . . well a hardhat keeps your skull from being crushed by falling debris. Can a wig do the same?
But can a baseball cap? Are you saying that baseball hats are not hats because they don't protect you from falling debris?
No, I'm saying hats have some form of protection. A baseball cap can help to protect your eyes from sunlight. No wig is designed with protection in mind. They are designed as a fashion piece.
But what I'm saying is that wigs have both pressure and sun protection, too.
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@rojoloco said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
Wig or hat?
...or perhaps this one is the top of Guy Fieri's head?
Or a.... wat.
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So, a visor blocks the sun from your eyes, but is not a hat, it doesn't cover your head.
The covering you head portion is what makes something a hat, and a wig. The blocking the sun portion could be a visor or a roof.
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@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
So, a visor blocks the sun from your eyes, but is not a hat, it doesn't cover your head.
The covering you head portion is what makes something a hat, and a wig. The blocking the sun portion could be a visor or a roof.
But this item must attach to your head in some way. Therefore, negating a roof or tree as a hat/wig.
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example...the umbrella hat
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@nerdydad said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
example...the umbrella hat
Nevermind the hat, look at that creepy ass head!!!
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@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
So, a visor blocks the sun from your eyes, but is not a hat, it doesn't cover your head.
The covering you head portion is what makes something a hat, and a wig. The blocking the sun portion could be a visor or a roof.
A visor is a visor, it's an accessory to keep sun out of your eyes while not compressing the hair on the top of your head.
It doesn't make a wig a hat in any way. .
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@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
I think that wigs are simply a category of hat. What do you think?
I'd like to take it a step further and say a wig IS a hat.
Your reasons for wearing them may be different, but that doesn't change what it is.
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@tim_g said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
I think that wigs are simply a category of hat. What do you think?
I'd like to take it a step further and say a wig IS a hat.
Your reasons for wearing them may be different, but that doesn't change what it is.
Yes, I believe a wig IS a hat, that's my feeling. But I do feel that wigs are an identifiable "kind of" hat. If a wig is only a hat, we'd never be sure which thing is a wig and which is a non-wig hat. But we all, generally, know when we have a wig. No one has a cowboy hat on and has someone think it is a wig.
But oddly, people are allowed to wear wigs in places where you are required to remove your hat. UNLESS it is for religious reasons, then you have to remove it. So religiously, wigs are hats, but socially they are often given a pass. but often girls' hats are given a pass on rules and boys' hats are not.
I actually did my senior thesis on hat wearing, believe it or not.
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This also leads to the question of why did the Whig Party never get called the Hat Party? Or did they and we've just forgotten?
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@dustinb3403 said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
So, a visor blocks the sun from your eyes, but is not a hat, it doesn't cover your head.
The covering you head portion is what makes something a hat, and a wig. The blocking the sun portion could be a visor or a roof.
A visor is a visor, it's an accessory to keep sun out of your eyes while not compressing the hair on the top of your head.
It doesn't make a wig a hat in any way. .
No, a wig is a hat for other reasons, such as the fact that it just is a hat. A visor, however, meets your definition of a hat while most hats do not. Hence the point.
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So, it would be safe to say that all wigs are hats, but not all hats are wigs.
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@nerdydad said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
So, a visor blocks the sun from your eyes, but is not a hat, it doesn't cover your head.
The covering you head portion is what makes something a hat, and a wig. The blocking the sun portion could be a visor or a roof.
But this item must attach to your head in some way. Therefore, negating a roof or tree as a hat/wig.
Correct. A visor, roof, or tree are all sun blocking, non-hat devices. Whereas backwards baseball caps, skull caps, winter woolens, and wigs are are hats, but don't block the sun.
The point being that sun blocking is something a hat might do, but isn't part of the definition of a hat.
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@nerdydad said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
So, it would be safe to say that all wigs are hats, but not all hats are wigs.
Exactly.
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@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
Yes, I believe a wig IS a hat, that's my feeling. But I do feel that wigs are an identifiable "kind of" hat. If a wig is only a hat, we'd never be sure which thing is a wig and which is a non-wig hat. But we all, generally, know when we have a wig. No one has a cowboy hat on and has someone think it is a wig.
Perhaps style then?
Is a sombrero or baseball cap "categories" or "styles" of hats? I think style betters servers what kind of hat a wig would be than category.
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@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@tim_g said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
@scottalanmiller said in Today's Random Discussion Point: Are Wigs Just Hairy Hats?:
I think that wigs are simply a category of hat. What do you think?
I'd like to take it a step further and say a wig IS a hat.
Your reasons for wearing them may be different, but that doesn't change what it is.
Yes, I believe a wig IS a hat, that's my feeling. But I do feel that wigs are an identifiable "kind of" hat. If a wig is only a hat, we'd never be sure which thing is a wig and which is a non-wig hat. But we all, generally, know when we have a wig. No one has a cowboy hat on and has someone think it is a wig.
But oddly, people are allowed to wear wigs in places where you are required to remove your hat. UNLESS it is for religious reasons, then you have to remove it. So religiously, wigs are hats, but socially they are often given a pass. but often girls' hats are given a pass on rules and boys' hats are not.
I actually did my senior thesis on hat wearing, believe it or not.
Social convention has very little to do with the definition of a hat vs a wig. A wig is a replacement to a loss of hair at the top of your head to which no one is expected to remove their wig in church or at a social convention where it is customary to "remove your hat and stand".
Where have you actually seen people remove their wigs at due to social convention?!
