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    • thanksajdotcomT
      thanksajdotcom
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      So instead of have devices behind device A connected to devices behind device B, everything connects up to the cloud and everyone connects to everyone else making it ideal for highly mobile companies with few central offices.

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      • thanksajdotcomT
        thanksajdotcom
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        @bob-beatty Not really an agent per se. Standalone program that runs as a service. Enter creds once and it's good to go. You don't have to log in each time. It can be made invisible to the user and whenever you power on the machine, before you ever log into Windows, you're on the VPN. It is quite snazzy.

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        • Bob BeattyB
          Bob Beatty
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          Does the agent get pushed down from the Central console? Can security/access be configured at that point? Where does the network get added into the mix?

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            Doesn't MS have something like this... I can't recall the name of it now.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Bob Beatty
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              @Bob-Beatty said:

              Does the agent get pushed down from the Central console? Can security/access be configured at that point? Where does the network get added into the mix?

              No. It can't since there is no network until the agent is deployed.

              The agent adds a TUN interface. That is what puts you on the network.

              There is nothing to configure at the end point. You just put in the creds and let it join.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                Doesn't MS have something like this... I can't recall the name of it now.

                Yes but requires enterprise licensing and a 100% Microsoft network and is IPv6 only and you would have to build out your own infrastructure for it. Would cost hundreds of thousands to duplicate that way.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  The automatic connection piece is huge. Because it does this things like DNS and AD can work. Makes our lives so much easier.

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                  • Bill KindleB
                    Bill Kindle
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                    I started using Pertino because I'm sick of RRAS and hate the costs of hardware VPN's. If I can keep a user always connected with minimal interaction, that's a huge plus and also makes them happy.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      And you can go to the central web console and see what machines are connected and, if necessary, disconnect them.

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                      • J
                        Josh Vendor
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                        Bob - thanks for setting this up! Much easier to stay on top of threads.

                        Security: Pertino is installed on each end point that you want connected to the network, so we are able to deploy 256-bit AES encryption end to end. The connection is an SSL connection. Data passes through our hosted "routers" to get to each destination. Each network is completely separate, and no data is stored or even cached. Device or user-based access to resources can be restricted with just two clicks.

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                        • PSX_DefectorP
                          PSX_Defector @Josh
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                          @Josh said:

                          Bob - thanks for setting this up! Much easier to stay on top of threads.

                          Security: Pertino is installed on each end point that you want connected to the network, so we are able to deploy 256-bit AES encryption end to end. The connection is an SSL connection. Data passes through our hosted "routers" to get to each destination. Each network is completely separate, and no data is stored or even cached. Device or user-based access to resources can be restricted with just two clicks.

                          Now all we need is those [moderated] I went around and around with a while back who were saying you were gonna get hacked if you used Pertino. 🙂

                          I'm still trying to get the thing to work in a point to point fashion. Lots of folks have devices behind the firewall that won't be able to either use Pertino or they don't want to have the talk with users about installing it on their personal devices. If only you would release it in source I could compile the thing on something I can work with in that regards.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            I think we missed mentioning file transfers and remote access over Pertino because they just seem so obvious. But they play big roles. RDP and SMB over Pertino are major use cases.

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                            • J
                              Josh Vendor @PSX_Defector
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                              @PSX_Defector said:

                              @Josh said:

                              Bob - thanks for setting this up! Much easier to stay on top of threads.

                              Security: Pertino is installed on each end point that you want connected to the network, so we are able to deploy 256-bit AES encryption end to end. The connection is an SSL connection. Data passes through our hosted "routers" to get to each destination. Each network is completely separate, and no data is stored or even cached. Device or user-based access to resources can be restricted with just two clicks.

                              Now all we need is those [moderated] I went around and around with a while back who were saying you were gonna get hacked if you used Pertino. 🙂

                              I'm still trying to get the thing to work in a point to point fashion. Lots of folks have devices behind the firewall that won't be able to either use Pertino or they don't want to have the talk with users about installing it on their personal devices. If only you would release it in source I could compile the thing on something I can work with in that regards.

                              @psx_defector - We use outbound port 443 SSL to make the connection, so your users should be able to connect despite being behind the firewall. You can literally close all inbound ports and still connect to your Pertino resources.

                              Are you looking at getting it on your Linux boxes? We've got a Debian package available and an RPM in private beta.

                              No plans for true point-to-point connection at this point. We're still doing all the routing via localized hosted routers.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                RPM is working great. Best of all the packages I think. We use Windows, Mac, DEB and RPM.

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                                • PSX_DefectorP
                                  PSX_Defector
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                                  I might be able to do something with the RPM. I'm just not big on Debian distros. My initial messing around with a psudeo point to point in Windows failed miserably. It wouldn't do much without performing a bunch of crazy local routes.

                                  Of course, compiling from source would make my life easier. 🙂

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    I'm not a DEB fan either but GroveSocial is on Ubuntu so we've been working with it recently.

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                                    • thanksajdotcomT
                                      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      I'm not a DEB fan either but GroveSocial is on Ubuntu so we've been working with it recently.

                                      Isn't it generally considered that debian based systems are for consumers and rpm based systems for business? That's what I always tend to see. Anything applied to business practices always uses RPMs. FWIW

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        Am I correct in my understanding that for every person who wants to connect to their work PC either directly or through RDS will require at least two licenses of Pertino? one for office computer and one for the home computer? If the user wants to use their phone as well, that would be a third, and a second computer from home, that would be a fourth Pertino license?

                                        wow.. these licenses per user can add up fast.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
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                                          I just watched Scott's YouTube video on Pertino, not bad.

                                          But unlike a traditional VPN solution - you need to setup each endpoint specifically in the Pertino cloud, right? This can get costly pretty fast considering the shear number of end points. Once a VPN solution is in place it's pretty much done. Granted there's a lot of upfront setup and that takes time and money sure, but I'm guessing the pay back for a small business would be under a year compared to the on going expenses of a subscription solution.

                                          What am I missing?

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                                          • thanksajdotcomT
                                            thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            Am I correct in my understanding that for every person who wants to connect to their work PC either directly or through RDS will require at least two licenses of Pertino? one for office computer and one for the home computer? If the user wants to use their phone as well, that would be a third, and a second computer from home, that would be a fourth Pertino license?

                                            wow.. these licenses per user can add up fast.

                                            If you are working it that way, yes. The billing is done on a per device basis which was a change from their per person billing. Per device makes much more sense in my opinion.

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