Need some help with a better fax solution
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Was just talking to someone about Twilio's Fax API. Thinking about working on it next week (adding to my Twilio project).
With a few simple curl commands you could probably create a twiml bin to do what voip.ms is doing. If you want to keep it all on Twilio.
My longer term goal is to have a dialpad.com style interface, windows desktop app or chrome app, where you can control phone and view other users status (like 3cx) but also call, text, fax.
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@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
Was just talking to someone about Twilio's Fax API. Thinking about working on it next week (adding to my Twilio project).
With a few simple curl commands you could probably create a twiml bin to do what voip.ms is doing. If you want to keep it all on Twilio.
My longer term goal is to have a dialpad.com style interface, windows desktop app or chrome app, where you can control phone and view other users status (like 3cx) but also call, text, fax.
I just had a support ticket closed about that. The API is the only fax access they have. It don't support faxing over a SIP trunk (assuming someone would want to have their PBX handle faxing).
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@eddiejennings said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
Was just talking to someone about Twilio's Fax API. Thinking about working on it next week (adding to my Twilio project).
With a few simple curl commands you could probably create a twiml bin to do what voip.ms is doing. If you want to keep it all on Twilio.
My longer term goal is to have a dialpad.com style interface, windows desktop app or chrome app, where you can control phone and view other users status (like 3cx) but also call, text, fax.
I just had a support ticket closed about that. The API is the only fax access they have. It don't support faxing over a SIP trunk (assuming someone would want to have their PBX handle faxing).
Yes but to do the email to fax for in and out it's all you need. And a few lines of code.
Their infrastructure is incredible, they are just focused on delivering to developers the tools to build end user apps.
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We've signed up with egoldfax so thanks to the user who suggested that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dave247 said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
I'm not leaving this company for a while as I just got the job a year ago as my first IT job as sysadmin and I've been getting a ton of invaluable experience with a massive range of IT things, big and small.
That should read "I'm getting out of here as quickly as possible. I've been here a full year and already am dramatically left without mentorship and there is no upward mobility. The company doesn't care about business and my desires to do good IT work don't align with the organization."
I actually do have mentorship and there is upward mobility. Additionally, I have learned a ton on my own and I think I'm doing pretty good so far, despite some negative things. And of course my company cares about business, despite making some bad decisions in the past. Stop making such negatively absolutist statements.
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The last time I looked at the fact solution for my 700+ pages per day the cost was going to be in excess of $700 a month for a hosted solution.
This is why I kept it in the house onto a machine that I already owned saving to a network share but I could have just as easily sent it to an email group.
Monthly reoccurring fees are $30 for a pots line.
My machine has a printer driver that allows printing to fax. So there is no need to print something and walk to a machine. -
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
The last time I looked at the fact solution for my 700+ pages per day the cost was going to be in excess of $700 a month for a hosted solution.
This is why I kept it in the house onto a machine that I already owned saving to a network share but I could have just as easily sent it to an email group.
Monthly reoccurring fees are $30 for a pots line.
My machine has a printer driver that allows printing to fax. So there is no need to print something and walk to a machine.We do about 200 pages a month or so which is going to cost us about $30 per month and then it sounds like if we go over that, it's still quite cheap.
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@dave247 said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
We do about 200 pages a month or so which is going to cost us about $30 per month and then it sounds like if we go over that, it's still quite cheap.
I'd be surprised if we've done 200 pages in the 4 years I've been with my company; thus, eGoldFax, as cool as it is, didn't make sense financially.
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@dave247 said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
The last time I looked at the fact solution for my 700+ pages per day the cost was going to be in excess of $700 a month for a hosted solution.
This is why I kept it in the house onto a machine that I already owned saving to a network share but I could have just as easily sent it to an email group.
Monthly reoccurring fees are $30 for a pots line.
My machine has a printer driver that allows printing to fax. So there is no need to print something and walk to a machine.We do about 200 pages a month or so which is going to cost us about $30 per month and then it sounds like if we go over that, it's still quite cheap.
Yeah, most of those cloud-based solutions are pretty reasonable at 500 pages or less per month but my volume is so high it was completely unreasonable.
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@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dave247 said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
The last time I looked at the fact solution for my 700+ pages per day the cost was going to be in excess of $700 a month for a hosted solution.
This is why I kept it in the house onto a machine that I already owned saving to a network share but I could have just as easily sent it to an email group.
Monthly reoccurring fees are $30 for a pots line.
My machine has a printer driver that allows printing to fax. So there is no need to print something and walk to a machine.We do about 200 pages a month or so which is going to cost us about $30 per month and then it sounds like if we go over that, it's still quite cheap.
Yeah, most of those cloud-based solutions are pretty reasonable at 500 pages or less per month but my volume is so high it was completely unreasonable.
How would 2 cents a page compare? Pay as you go? That's what Twilio is charging.
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@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dave247 said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
The last time I looked at the fact solution for my 700+ pages per day the cost was going to be in excess of $700 a month for a hosted solution.
This is why I kept it in the house onto a machine that I already owned saving to a network share but I could have just as easily sent it to an email group.
Monthly reoccurring fees are $30 for a pots line.
My machine has a printer driver that allows printing to fax. So there is no need to print something and walk to a machine.We do about 200 pages a month or so which is going to cost us about $30 per month and then it sounds like if we go over that, it's still quite cheap.
Yeah, most of those cloud-based solutions are pretty reasonable at 500 pages or less per month but my volume is so high it was completely unreasonable.
How would 2 cents a page compare? Pay as you go? That's what Twilio is charging.
That would cost me $14/day+ Three days and I’ve paid for my POTS line.
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@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dave247 said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
The last time I looked at the fact solution for my 700+ pages per day the cost was going to be in excess of $700 a month for a hosted solution.
This is why I kept it in the house onto a machine that I already owned saving to a network share but I could have just as easily sent it to an email group.
Monthly reoccurring fees are $30 for a pots line.
My machine has a printer driver that allows printing to fax. So there is no need to print something and walk to a machine.We do about 200 pages a month or so which is going to cost us about $30 per month and then it sounds like if we go over that, it's still quite cheap.
Yeah, most of those cloud-based solutions are pretty reasonable at 500 pages or less per month but my volume is so high it was completely unreasonable.
How would 2 cents a page compare? Pay as you go? That's what Twilio is charging.
That would cost me $14/day+ Three days and I’ve paid for my POTS line.
Wow that’s a lot of faxes
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@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dave247 said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
The last time I looked at the fact solution for my 700+ pages per day the cost was going to be in excess of $700 a month for a hosted solution.
This is why I kept it in the house onto a machine that I already owned saving to a network share but I could have just as easily sent it to an email group.
Monthly reoccurring fees are $30 for a pots line.
My machine has a printer driver that allows printing to fax. So there is no need to print something and walk to a machine.We do about 200 pages a month or so which is going to cost us about $30 per month and then it sounds like if we go over that, it's still quite cheap.
Yeah, most of those cloud-based solutions are pretty reasonable at 500 pages or less per month but my volume is so high it was completely unreasonable.
How would 2 cents a page compare? Pay as you go? That's what Twilio is charging.
That would cost me $14/day+ Three days and I’ve paid for my POTS line.
Sorry looks like it's dropped to 1 cent per page.
But yeah that sounds like a lot of faxes. Is it medical?
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@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dave247 said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
The last time I looked at the fact solution for my 700+ pages per day the cost was going to be in excess of $700 a month for a hosted solution.
This is why I kept it in the house onto a machine that I already owned saving to a network share but I could have just as easily sent it to an email group.
Monthly reoccurring fees are $30 for a pots line.
My machine has a printer driver that allows printing to fax. So there is no need to print something and walk to a machine.We do about 200 pages a month or so which is going to cost us about $30 per month and then it sounds like if we go over that, it's still quite cheap.
Yeah, most of those cloud-based solutions are pretty reasonable at 500 pages or less per month but my volume is so high it was completely unreasonable.
How would 2 cents a page compare? Pay as you go? That's what Twilio is charging.
That would cost me $14/day+ Three days and I’ve paid for my POTS line.
Sorry looks like it's dropped to 1 cent per page.
But yeah that sounds like a lot of faxes. Is it medical?
Yep. We receive somewhere north of 600 pages a day and we probably send 500+ pages a month.
I’m house faxing on either a mopier or fax server is the only thing that makes sense for us.
Since we already have the mopiers and a network location to store them all we need is $30/pots line.
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@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dave247 said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
The last time I looked at the fact solution for my 700+ pages per day the cost was going to be in excess of $700 a month for a hosted solution.
This is why I kept it in the house onto a machine that I already owned saving to a network share but I could have just as easily sent it to an email group.
Monthly reoccurring fees are $30 for a pots line.
My machine has a printer driver that allows printing to fax. So there is no need to print something and walk to a machine.We do about 200 pages a month or so which is going to cost us about $30 per month and then it sounds like if we go over that, it's still quite cheap.
Yeah, most of those cloud-based solutions are pretty reasonable at 500 pages or less per month but my volume is so high it was completely unreasonable.
How would 2 cents a page compare? Pay as you go? That's what Twilio is charging.
That would cost me $14/day+ Three days and I’ve paid for my POTS line.
Sorry looks like it's dropped to 1 cent per page.
But yeah that sounds like a lot of faxes. Is it medical?
Yep. We receive somewhere north of 600 pages a day and we probably send 500+ pages a month.
I’m house faxing on either a mopier or fax server is the only thing that makes sense for us.
Since we already have the mopiers and a network location to store them all we need is $30/pots line.
Out of curiosity, how much does your faxing cost per minute with your POTS line?
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@eddiejennings said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dave247 said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
The last time I looked at the fact solution for my 700+ pages per day the cost was going to be in excess of $700 a month for a hosted solution.
This is why I kept it in the house onto a machine that I already owned saving to a network share but I could have just as easily sent it to an email group.
Monthly reoccurring fees are $30 for a pots line.
My machine has a printer driver that allows printing to fax. So there is no need to print something and walk to a machine.We do about 200 pages a month or so which is going to cost us about $30 per month and then it sounds like if we go over that, it's still quite cheap.
Yeah, most of those cloud-based solutions are pretty reasonable at 500 pages or less per month but my volume is so high it was completely unreasonable.
How would 2 cents a page compare? Pay as you go? That's what Twilio is charging.
That would cost me $14/day+ Three days and I’ve paid for my POTS line.
Sorry looks like it's dropped to 1 cent per page.
But yeah that sounds like a lot of faxes. Is it medical?
Yep. We receive somewhere north of 600 pages a day and we probably send 500+ pages a month.
I’m house faxing on either a mopier or fax server is the only thing that makes sense for us.
Since we already have the mopiers and a network location to store them all we need is $30/pots line.
Out of curiosity, how much does your faxing cost per minute with your POTS line?
There is no per min cost. It’s $30 a month flat. Presumably I could keep it going 24/7 and still only pay $30/month
As it is, it’s running 6+ hour M-F.
We do actually have two pots lines to allow fast incoming faxes (ie two at once) and the occasional outgoing.
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@eddiejennings said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dave247 said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
The last time I looked at the fact solution for my 700+ pages per day the cost was going to be in excess of $700 a month for a hosted solution.
This is why I kept it in the house onto a machine that I already owned saving to a network share but I could have just as easily sent it to an email group.
Monthly reoccurring fees are $30 for a pots line.
My machine has a printer driver that allows printing to fax. So there is no need to print something and walk to a machine.We do about 200 pages a month or so which is going to cost us about $30 per month and then it sounds like if we go over that, it's still quite cheap.
Yeah, most of those cloud-based solutions are pretty reasonable at 500 pages or less per month but my volume is so high it was completely unreasonable.
How would 2 cents a page compare? Pay as you go? That's what Twilio is charging.
That would cost me $14/day+ Three days and I’ve paid for my POTS line.
Sorry looks like it's dropped to 1 cent per page.
But yeah that sounds like a lot of faxes. Is it medical?
Yep. We receive somewhere north of 600 pages a day and we probably send 500+ pages a month.
I’m house faxing on either a mopier or fax server is the only thing that makes sense for us.
Since we already have the mopiers and a network location to store them all we need is $30/pots line.
Out of curiosity, how much does your faxing cost per minute with your POTS line?
I also realize I could do some math for you 600 min x 22 days = 13,200 mins + 500 mins outgoing minimum. Just call it 14,000 mins.
So $30/14,000 = .214 cents a min
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@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@eddiejennings said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dave247 said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
The last time I looked at the fact solution for my 700+ pages per day the cost was going to be in excess of $700 a month for a hosted solution.
This is why I kept it in the house onto a machine that I already owned saving to a network share but I could have just as easily sent it to an email group.
Monthly reoccurring fees are $30 for a pots line.
My machine has a printer driver that allows printing to fax. So there is no need to print something and walk to a machine.We do about 200 pages a month or so which is going to cost us about $30 per month and then it sounds like if we go over that, it's still quite cheap.
Yeah, most of those cloud-based solutions are pretty reasonable at 500 pages or less per month but my volume is so high it was completely unreasonable.
How would 2 cents a page compare? Pay as you go? That's what Twilio is charging.
That would cost me $14/day+ Three days and I’ve paid for my POTS line.
Sorry looks like it's dropped to 1 cent per page.
But yeah that sounds like a lot of faxes. Is it medical?
Yep. We receive somewhere north of 600 pages a day and we probably send 500+ pages a month.
I’m house faxing on either a mopier or fax server is the only thing that makes sense for us.
Since we already have the mopiers and a network location to store them all we need is $30/pots line.
Out of curiosity, how much does your faxing cost per minute with your POTS line?
I also realize I could do some math for you 600 min x 22 days = 13,200 mins + 500 mins outgoing minimum. Just call it 14,000 mins.
So $30/14,000 = .214 cents a min
Ha! Your telco probably uses your account as an example of How-Not-To-Sell-A-Contract during sales training
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@eddiejennings said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@eddiejennings said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dave247 said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
The last time I looked at the fact solution for my 700+ pages per day the cost was going to be in excess of $700 a month for a hosted solution.
This is why I kept it in the house onto a machine that I already owned saving to a network share but I could have just as easily sent it to an email group.
Monthly reoccurring fees are $30 for a pots line.
My machine has a printer driver that allows printing to fax. So there is no need to print something and walk to a machine.We do about 200 pages a month or so which is going to cost us about $30 per month and then it sounds like if we go over that, it's still quite cheap.
Yeah, most of those cloud-based solutions are pretty reasonable at 500 pages or less per month but my volume is so high it was completely unreasonable.
How would 2 cents a page compare? Pay as you go? That's what Twilio is charging.
That would cost me $14/day+ Three days and I’ve paid for my POTS line.
Sorry looks like it's dropped to 1 cent per page.
But yeah that sounds like a lot of faxes. Is it medical?
Yep. We receive somewhere north of 600 pages a day and we probably send 500+ pages a month.
I’m house faxing on either a mopier or fax server is the only thing that makes sense for us.
Since we already have the mopiers and a network location to store them all we need is $30/pots line.
Out of curiosity, how much does your faxing cost per minute with your POTS line?
I also realize I could do some math for you 600 min x 22 days = 13,200 mins + 500 mins outgoing minimum. Just call it 14,000 mins.
So $30/14,000 = .214 cents a min
Ha! Your telco probably uses your account as an example of How-Not-To-Sell-A-Contract during sales training
Think about when you used to do dial up internet.
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@eddiejennings said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@eddiejennings said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@bigbear said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dave247 said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
@dashrender said in Need some help with a better fax solution:
The last time I looked at the fact solution for my 700+ pages per day the cost was going to be in excess of $700 a month for a hosted solution.
This is why I kept it in the house onto a machine that I already owned saving to a network share but I could have just as easily sent it to an email group.
Monthly reoccurring fees are $30 for a pots line.
My machine has a printer driver that allows printing to fax. So there is no need to print something and walk to a machine.We do about 200 pages a month or so which is going to cost us about $30 per month and then it sounds like if we go over that, it's still quite cheap.
Yeah, most of those cloud-based solutions are pretty reasonable at 500 pages or less per month but my volume is so high it was completely unreasonable.
How would 2 cents a page compare? Pay as you go? That's what Twilio is charging.
That would cost me $14/day+ Three days and I’ve paid for my POTS line.
Sorry looks like it's dropped to 1 cent per page.
But yeah that sounds like a lot of faxes. Is it medical?
Yep. We receive somewhere north of 600 pages a day and we probably send 500+ pages a month.
I’m house faxing on either a mopier or fax server is the only thing that makes sense for us.
Since we already have the mopiers and a network location to store them all we need is $30/pots line.
Out of curiosity, how much does your faxing cost per minute with your POTS line?
I also realize I could do some math for you 600 min x 22 days = 13,200 mins + 500 mins outgoing minimum. Just call it 14,000 mins.
So $30/14,000 = .214 cents a min
Ha! Your telco probably uses your account as an example of How-Not-To-Sell-A-Contract during sales training
It's a little different when you own the copper in ground. VoIP is all about paying for port access at the interconnect and then brokering off those points at wholesale (6/6) minutes.
With a PRI/BRI it would've been metered.
.0021 is prime wholesale pricing for a CLEC. But that would be with T38. So the per page cost of 1 penny is a whole different apples to oranges thing.
So 700 pages a day is still $7 times 22 is $144 with Twilio per month. A lot better than $700. That vs 2 $30 lines plus tax, now only 200% more expensive. Lol
But you could do some things with the API to make sending and receiving a better workflow.
