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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @FATeknollogee
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      @fateknollogee said in KVM: create new guest from existing qcow2:

      What's the trick to creating a new guest from an existing .qcow2 image?
      This is a Fedora26 image (firmware/chipset: EFI/Q35)

      Using virt-manager, creating new vm & selecting existing image does not work.
      I get an error "System BootOrder not found"

      It's either what you've done or using virt-install and using the existing disk. I'd check the boot order in virt-manager. If that doesn't work it might be the image.

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee
        last edited by FATeknollogee

        Boot order is set correctly in virt-manager.
        The image worked in a previous Fedora 25 install.
        I re-installed the o/s (F25 to F26), the qcow2 images were on a separate disk.

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates
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          Did you try passing through the host CPU type?

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @stacksofplates
            last edited by

            @stacksofplates said in KVM: create new guest from existing qcow2:

            Did you try passing through the host CPU type?

            Have not tried that yet

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates
              last edited by

              I would also try switching to a non pv driver. If it boots with a normal SCSI driver then it's probably virtio.

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              • PenguinWranglerP
                PenguinWrangler
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                Do you have access to the original host?

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                • Emad RE
                  Emad R @FATeknollogee
                  last edited by Emad R

                  @fateknollogee

                  In Virt Manager you have the following options:

                  https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Virtualization_Getting_Started_Guide/images/virt-manager_create_step1.png

                  choose Import existing disk image, instead of re-creating the VM then selecting the disk image.

                  That never failed me, and if it fails on your machine, what is the error ?
                  sometimes the console of Virt Manager will be blank, it happens, close it and re-open it.

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @PenguinWrangler
                    last edited by

                    @penguinwrangler said in KVM: create new guest from existing qcow2:

                    Do you have access to the original host?

                    The orig host is no more.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @Emad R
                      last edited by

                      @emad-r said in KVM: create new guest from existing qcow2:

                      @fateknollogee

                      In Virt Manager you have the following options:

                      https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Virtualization_Getting_Started_Guide/images/virt-manager_create_step1.png

                      choose Import existing disk image, instead of re-creating the VM then selecting the disk image.

                      That never failed me, and if it fails on your machine, what is the error ?
                      sometimes the console of Virt Manager will be blank, it happens, close it and re-open it.

                      This ^^ is exactly what I did.
                      Error is "System BootOrder not found"

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                      • PenguinWranglerP
                        PenguinWrangler @FATeknollogee
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                        @fateknollogee okay. I was going to suggest if it was available that you do an export: virsh dumpxml vmname > vmname.xml then move the hard drives and the xml to the new host and do an import: virsh net-define vmname.xml

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                        • Emad RE
                          Emad R @FATeknollogee
                          last edited by Emad R

                          @fateknollogee said in KVM: create new guest from existing qcow2:

                          System BootOrder not found"

                          System BootOrder not found seems to be EFI related.

                          Can you try playing with those setting in Virt manager, there was an option to alternate between both (EFI and legacy BIOS)

                          And if you are testing and have free time , and the VM you are importing was EFI, can you try re-creating in standard BIOS mode and try again to import and see if that changes anything.

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee @Emad R
                            last edited by FATeknollogee

                            @emad-r said in KVM: create new guest from existing qcow2:

                            @fateknollogee said in KVM: create new guest from existing qcow2:

                            System BootOrder not found"

                            System BootOrder not found seems to be EFI related.

                            Can you try playing with those setting in Virt manager, there was an option to alternate between both (EFI and legacy BIOS)

                            And if you are testing and have free time , and the VM you are importing was EFI, can you try re-creating in standard BIOS mode and try again to import and see if that changes anything.

                            In BIOS mode, it says "Booting from Hard Disk..." with a flashing cursor...no progress after that.

                            The image was definitely created as EFI.

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee @stacksofplates
                              last edited by

                              @stacksofplates said in KVM: create new guest from existing qcow2:

                              I would also try switching to a non pv driver. If it boots with a normal SCSI driver then it's probably virtio.

                              No go, same error.

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee @stacksofplates
                                last edited by

                                @stacksofplates said in KVM: create new guest from existing qcow2:

                                Did you try passing through the host CPU type?

                                Yes, error is still the same.

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                                • F
                                  Francesco Provino
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                                  Have you tried virt-install and its switches?

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                                  • FATeknollogeeF
                                    FATeknollogee @Francesco Provino
                                    last edited by

                                    @francesco-provino said in KVM: create new guest from existing qcow2:

                                    Have you tried virt-install and its switches?

                                    I tried virt-install & created a new vm using the qcow2 image, that did not work either.

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                                    • Emad RE
                                      Emad R @FATeknollogee
                                      last edited by

                                      @fateknollogee

                                      I tried installing Centos on UEFI and then enabling KVM to trouble-shoot your issue, however when I wanted to create new EFI Q35 VM it complained that I dont have EFI packages, so I was unable to change the VM from BIOS:

                                      I440FX
                                      to
                                      Q35

                                      Using Virt Manager, did you do anything special on the host KVM or to qemu to enable EFI Q35 ? or you were able to select it from the start ?

                                      thanks.

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee @Emad R
                                        last edited by

                                        @emad-r said in KVM: create new guest from existing qcow2:

                                        @fateknollogee

                                        I tried installing Centos on UEFI and then enabling KVM to trouble-shoot your issue, however when I wanted to create new EFI Q35 VM it complained that I dont have EFI packages, so I was unable to change the VM from BIOS:

                                        I440FX
                                        to
                                        Q35

                                        Using Virt Manager, did you do anything special on the host KVM or to qemu to enable EFI Q35 ? or you were able to select it from the start ?

                                        thanks.

                                        Q35 has to be selected as you are creating the vm.

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                                        • FATeknollogeeF
                                          FATeknollogee
                                          last edited by

                                          Turns out the Windows 10 vm's booted just fine, they were UEFI + i440FX (no Q35).

                                          The Fedora 26 vm's (UEFI + Q35) would not boot & gave the error listed in my orig post.

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                                          • FATeknollogeeF
                                            FATeknollogee
                                            last edited by

                                            Solved
                                            I posted this on https://www.redhat.com/archives/virt-tools-list/2017-August/msg00210.html

                                            Laszlo Ersek posted the solution: https://www.redhat.com/archives/virt-tools-list/2017-August/msg00244.html
                                            It can be mitigated manually: when the VM boots, interrupt it at the
                                            TianoCore splash screen. In the setup utility, navigate to:

                                            Boot Maintenance Manager
                                            Boot Options
                                            Add Boot Option

                                            In the file chooser, select

                                            <whatever device you have>/EFI/fedora/shim.efi

                                            and enter a description (name) for the boot option.

                                            Then,

                                            Boot Maintenance Manager
                                            Boot Options
                                            Change Boot Order

                                            and move the new boot option to the top of the list.

                                            After you commit the changes, you can forcibly reset the VM, or else
                                            return to the setup TUI front page, and select Reset there.

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