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    • dafyreD
      dafyre
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      I would definitely start with clearing the arp tables.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Can they ping locally? Can they ping the gateway?

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        • KellyK
          Kelly @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

          Can they ping locally? Can they ping the gateway?

          Yes to both. Changing gateway to x.x.x.254 works (so old gateway).

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Kelly
            last edited by JaredBusch

            @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

            @scottalanmiller said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

            Can they ping locally? Can they ping the gateway?

            Yes to both. Changing gateway to x.x.x.254 works (so old gateway).

            Are they properly getting the updated DHCP? I have had major issues with my MBP on an older OS version with it not accepting new DHCP info when setting up a new router.

            Did you set one up static and does it fail?

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            • KellyK
              Kelly @JaredBusch
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              @jaredbusch said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

              @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

              @scottalanmiller said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

              Can they ping locally? Can they ping the gateway?

              Yes to both. Changing gateway to x.x.x.254 works (so old gateway).

              Are they properly getting the updated DHCP?

              Did you set one up static and does it fail?

              So the gateway address did not change, just the device that has that address. DHCP release/renew makes no difference. Changing to static address with x.x.x.1 as the gateway does not work.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                OK if the IP didn't change, but the MAC address did, sounds like an ARP cache issue.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @Kelly
                  last edited by

                  @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                  @jaredbusch said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                  @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                  @scottalanmiller said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                  Can they ping locally? Can they ping the gateway?

                  Yes to both. Changing gateway to x.x.x.254 works (so old gateway).

                  Are they properly getting the updated DHCP?

                  Did you set one up static and does it fail?

                  So the gateway address did not change, just the device that has that address. DHCP release/renew makes no difference. Changing to static address with x.x.x.1 as the gateway does not work.

                  No clue then. I have never had a problem when setting one statically.

                  My problems always occurred when setting up a new ERL or such and the MBP kept refusing to come online with the new IP from the ERL's DHCP server.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    Is the new firewall blocking those machines for some reason? i.e. the new firewall see them as an attack? Anything in the logs?

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                    • KellyK
                      Kelly @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                      OK if the IP didn't change, but the MAC address did, sounds like an ARP cache issue.

                      Clearing the cache didn't fix it.

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                      • KellyK
                        Kelly @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                        Is the new firewall blocking those machines for some reason? i.e. the new firewall see them as an attack? Anything in the logs?

                        I'll take a look.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @Kelly
                          last edited by

                          @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                          @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                          OK if the IP didn't change, but the MAC address did, sounds like an ARP cache issue.

                          Clearing the cache didn't fix it.

                          after clearing it, did you look at the cache to see if the IP matched the desired MAC address?

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                          • KellyK
                            Kelly
                            last edited by Kelly

                            Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to set up VPN. This setting affects all outbound traffic. The Macs that were affected are the ones that have not yet been joined to Active Directory. This is a really cool setting that I'll be turning back on when we're actually ready for it.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                              Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to

                              What firewall?

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                              • KellyK
                                Kelly @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
                                

                                What firewall?

                                Juniper SRX.

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre
                                  last edited by

                                  Nice to know it was working as intended, right? lol.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @Kelly
                                    last edited by

                                    @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                    @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                    @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                    Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
                                    

                                    What firewall?

                                    Juniper SRX.

                                    I'm guessing some big money for that UTM.

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                                    • KellyK
                                      Kelly @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                      @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                      @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                      @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                      Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
                                      

                                      What firewall?

                                      Juniper SRX.

                                      I'm guessing some big money for that UTM.

                                      About $2k for each node. We have an HA pair.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @Kelly
                                        last edited by

                                        @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                        @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                        @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                        @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                        @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                        Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
                                        

                                        What firewall?

                                        Juniper SRX.

                                        I'm guessing some big money for that UTM.

                                        About $2k for each node. We have an HA pair.

                                        What was the reasoning behind the purchase?

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                                        • KellyK
                                          Kelly @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                          @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                          @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                          @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                          @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                          @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                          Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
                                          

                                          What firewall?

                                          Juniper SRX.

                                          I'm guessing some big money for that UTM.

                                          About $2k for each node. We have an HA pair.

                                          What was the reasoning behind the purchase?

                                          I'm not sure what you're getting at.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @Kelly
                                            last edited by

                                            @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                            @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                            @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                            @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                            @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                            @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                            @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                            Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
                                            

                                            What firewall?

                                            Juniper SRX.

                                            I'm guessing some big money for that UTM.

                                            About $2k for each node. We have an HA pair.

                                            What was the reasoning behind the purchase?

                                            I'm not sure what you're getting at.

                                            A general consensus around ML is that UTMs are unnecessary, i.e. a waste of money. Additionally, Scott is pretty adamant that there is only one primary vendor (drawing a blank right now) that is good for UTMs.

                                            So what I'm getting at is, what was the decision tree that lead to purchasing two $2000+ UTM firewalls? Why were they felt to be worth the value versus say a pair of Edge Routers? etc

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