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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by DustinB3403

      Unitrends and Veeam are often the go to solutions when discussing backup. You're already considering Unitrends, all that needs to be sorted out is the retention.

      Have you bought Unitrends, do you have support?

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      • sreekumarpgS
        sreekumarpg @DustinB3403
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        @dustinb3403 said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

        you bought Unitrends, do you have suppo

        Unitrends Evaluation

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @sreekumarpg
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          @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

          Unitrends Evaluation

          So the only support option would be their support channel / chat.

          It can be found here under chat. Enter a description of the problem, and see if the issue exists, if not move to the chat and see if anyone is online who can assist.

          I haven't used unitrends, so I can't speak to the issue you're having.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @DustinB3403
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            @dustinb3403 said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

            @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

            Unitrends Evaluation

            So the only support option would be their support channel / chat.

            It can be found here under chat. Enter a description of the problem, and see if the issue exists, if not move to the chat and see if anyone is online who can assist.

            I haven't used unitrends, so I can't speak to the issue you're having.

            Boy, to get a real worth while understanding of a product, I would expect them to give more support during an evaluation period. Perhaps you can call them and they will give you a support incident to call in on.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              You'll want to be looking at Veeam.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                You'll want to be looking at Veeam.

                Since we know you have the infrastructure for Rapid Recovery, Veeam is probably the least expensive option. Assuming they support CSV, which I have no clue.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Using Hyper-V?

                  https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/backup/hyperv/backup_process.html?ver=95

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                  • sreekumarpgS
                    sreekumarpg @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller We are using Physical SQL Cluster with CSV.

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                    • sreekumarpgS
                      sreekumarpg
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                      I would like to have a Backup solution of SQL with native agent base backup rather than Block level backup, so that I can restore in DB level.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @sreekumarpg
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                        @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                        I would like to have a Backup solution of SQL with native agent base backup rather than Block level backup, so that I can restore in DB level.

                        Are you saying that because you think that Veeam does not have an agent?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @sreekumarpg
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                          @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                          @scottalanmiller We are using Physical SQL Cluster with CSV.

                          Isnt' this in production? Databases are the last thing you'd want physical.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @sreekumarpg
                            last edited by

                            @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                            I would like to have a Backup solution of SQL with native agent base backup rather than Block level backup, so that I can restore in DB level.

                            Both agent and block level do this equally. Being agent based is not a factor in this capability.

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                            • sreekumarpgS
                              sreekumarpg @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                              ock level do this equally. Being agent based is not a factor in this capability.

                              Thanks scott, I will be testing the Veeam solution also.

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                              • sreekumarpgS
                                sreekumarpg @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                                t' this in production? Databases are the last thing you'd want physica

                                This is in Production and currently we are doing SQL native backup as the Rapid Recovery is not able to see the clustered share volume to take block level backup

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @sreekumarpg
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                                  @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                                  t' this in production? Databases are the last thing you'd want physica

                                  This is in Production and currently we are doing SQL native backup as the Rapid Recovery is not able to see the clustered share volume to take block level backup

                                  Production and physical really don't go together. Physical implies that someone didn't think that this was a very important workload. Databases are the top thing to virtualize and have been universally virtualized the longest as virtualization adds stability and safety.

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                                  • sreekumarpgS
                                    sreekumarpg @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller Agree scott, unfortunately Management current decision is to continue the SQL in the Physical cluster and seems they have no plans to change. If possible kindly share me some details and documents which can help me to propose the same to my management for review.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @sreekumarpg
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                                      @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                                      @scottalanmiller Agree scott, unfortunately Management current decision is to continue the SQL in the Physical cluster and seems they have no plans to change. If possible kindly share me some details and documents which can help me to propose the same to my management for review.

                                      If they need documents to convince them to protect their data, we've got bigger issues. Virtualization in the industry best practice and has been for a very long time. It's safer in many ways. All benefits, no downsides. The ball is in their court to explain why they have been reckless.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Some references...

                                        http://www.smbitjournal.com/2015/04/virtualizing-even-a-single-server/
                                        http://www.smbitjournal.com/2012/11/virtualization-as-a-standard-pattern/

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                                        • sreekumarpgS
                                          sreekumarpg @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller Thanks Scott, really appreciate

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @sreekumarpg
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                                            @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                                            @scottalanmiller Agree scott, unfortunately Management current decision is to continue the SQL in the Physical cluster and seems they have no plans to change. If possible kindly share me some details and documents which can help me to propose the same to my management for review.

                                            Here's the better question - why is management making these calls? Are they IT? Do they understand modern IT practice?

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