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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      What does Reverse DNS have to do with forward DNS not working, assuming that part is correct.

      Can you ping the DNS name? You said you could ping the IP.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        I have a feeling that the issue is that port forwarding has not been done yet?

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        • gjacobseG
          gjacobse @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @dashrender said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

          What does Reverse DNS have to do with forward DNS not working, assuming that part is correct.

          Can you ping the DNS name? You said you could ping the IP.

          It is not pingable by nextcloud.domain.com

          @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

          I have a feeling that the issue is that port forwarding has not been done yet?

          It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue. I don't believe Port Forwarding applies in this case - unless I"m missing something.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
            last edited by

            @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

            @dashrender said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

            What does Reverse DNS have to do with forward DNS not working, assuming that part is correct.

            Can you ping the DNS name? You said you could ping the IP.

            It is not pingable by nextcloud.domain.com

            That didn't make it any clearer.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @gjacobse
              last edited by

              @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

              It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

              Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

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              • gjacobseG
                gjacobse @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                DNS Manager
                Forward Lookup Zone - domain.com A Record(s)

                demo ( points to external IP)
                RDS (points to internal IP)
                RDS3 (points to Internal IP)
                nextcloud (points to Internal IP)

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                  last edited by

                  @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                  @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                  @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                  It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                  Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                  DNS Manager
                  Forward Lookup Zone - domain.com A Record(s)

                  demo ( points to external IP)
                  RDS (points to internal IP)
                  RDS3 (points to Internal IP)
                  nextcloud (points to Internal IP)

                  If the external DNS points to an internal IP, it can't work.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                    @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                    It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                    Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                    Unless your firewall supports hairpinning, assuming that's a Scott approved term.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @gjacobse
                      last edited by

                      @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                      @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                      @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                      It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                      Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                      DNS Manager
                      Forward Lookup Zone - domain.com A Record(s)

                      demo ( points to external IP)
                      RDS (points to internal IP)
                      RDS3 (points to Internal IP)
                      nextcloud (points to Internal IP)

                      What DNS manager? Internal or external?

                      Instead of looking at reverse, what do you get from an nslookup on nextcloud.domain.com?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                        @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                        @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                        It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                        Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                        Unless your firewall supports hairpinning, assuming that's a Scott approved term.

                        Even hairpinning doesn't work in this direction.

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                        • gjacobseG
                          gjacobse @stacksofplates
                          last edited by

                          @stacksofplates said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                          @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                          @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                          @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                          It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                          Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                          DNS Manager
                          Forward Lookup Zone - domain.com A Record(s)

                          demo ( points to external IP)
                          RDS (points to internal IP)
                          RDS3 (points to Internal IP)
                          nextcloud (points to Internal IP)

                          What DNS manager? Internal or external?

                          Instead of looking at reverse, what do you get from an nslookup on nextcloud.domain.com?

                          DNS Manager : Server 2012

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                            last edited by

                            @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                            @stacksofplates said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                            @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                            @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                            @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                            It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                            Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                            DNS Manager
                            Forward Lookup Zone - domain.com A Record(s)

                            demo ( points to external IP)
                            RDS (points to internal IP)
                            RDS3 (points to Internal IP)
                            nextcloud (points to Internal IP)

                            What DNS manager? Internal or external?

                            Instead of looking at reverse, what do you get from an nslookup on nextcloud.domain.com?

                            DNS Manager : Server 2012

                            OH! You should have said that, we've been assuming the main DNS system. Argh.

                            So internal doesn't work even though it points to the right address?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                              last edited by

                              @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                              However the NextCloud instance is on a 168.3.x zone. Going back to DHCP, the single scope is 168.1.1 - 168.3.254.

                              • force NextCloud to a 168.2.x address.

                              What do you mean force it to 168.2.x? That is a 168.3.x address here. See your subnet notes above.

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                              • gjacobseG
                                gjacobse @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                @stacksofplates said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                                Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                                DNS Manager
                                Forward Lookup Zone - domain.com A Record(s)

                                demo ( points to external IP)
                                RDS (points to internal IP)
                                RDS3 (points to Internal IP)
                                nextcloud (points to Internal IP)

                                What DNS manager? Internal or external?

                                Instead of looking at reverse, what do you get from an nslookup on nextcloud.domain.com?

                                DNS Manager : Server 2012

                                OH! You should have said that, we've been assuming the main DNS system. Argh.

                                So internal doesn't work even though it points to the right address?

                                Guess I made some assumptions when I mentioned DHCP Scope and DNS, and refererenced IPs in the local 192.168.2 zone

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                                • gjacobseG
                                  gjacobse @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                  @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                  However the NextCloud instance is on a 168.3.x zone. Going back to DHCP, the single scope is 168.1.1 - 168.3.254.

                                  • force NextCloud to a 168.2.x address.

                                  What do you mean force it to 168.2.x? That is a 168.3.x address here. See your subnet notes above.

                                  NextCloud currently has a 192.168.3.x address. Force as in push it to a 192.168.2.x address

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    I am so lost.

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                      I am so lost.

                                      Ya idk what's going on. I'd do an nslookup first to figure out what the clients are tying to get to.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                                        @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                        @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                        However the NextCloud instance is on a 168.3.x zone. Going back to DHCP, the single scope is 168.1.1 - 168.3.254.

                                        • force NextCloud to a 168.2.x address.

                                        What do you mean force it to 168.2.x? That is a 168.3.x address here. See your subnet notes above.

                                        NextCloud currently has a 192.168.3.x address. Force as in push it to a 192.168.2.x address

                                        Whoa, that's nothing like what you had before. 168.x is external public IPs. 192.168.x is internal, private IPs.

                                        Why are there two subnets as options?

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by stacksofplates

                                          @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                          @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                          @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                          However the NextCloud instance is on a 168.3.x zone. Going back to DHCP, the single scope is 168.1.1 - 168.3.254.

                                          • force NextCloud to a 168.2.x address.

                                          What do you mean force it to 168.2.x? That is a 168.3.x address here. See your subnet notes above.

                                          NextCloud currently has a 192.168.3.x address. Force as in push it to a 192.168.2.x address

                                          Whoa, that's nothing like what you had before. 168.x is external public IPs. 192.168.x is internal, private IPs.

                                          Why are there two subnets as options?

                                          This is why I was confused. Looks like he left off the 192 to shorten it? I thought it was public also.

                                          Ah it's in the reverse ip. I just missed it.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            This thread is a lost cause. @gjacobse start a new thread. Post your GOAL and your PROBLEM. This thread is all about DHCP Scope and Reverse DNS which are both completely unrelated to the issue you are trying to solve. Everyone is lost because you led off with a thread about red herrings and not about the problem you are attempting to resolve. Start over from the beginning, but don't inject potential solutions or presumptions. Just state the state of things and what you need to have working at the end. Don't use terms like "DNS Server" without telling us internal or external. Don't modify addresses. Keep it simple and focused on the goal.

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