Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?
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Couple of things. Last time I've run bittorrent on a qnap it was way more slow then a pc. At the time no qos was there or I had missed it.
Google can apply limits. We have migrated our mails on google. Aprox the company had 90 gb mail uploaded. Google limited upload by no more than 3 mails per minute regardless of the size. Limit was on mail number.
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@matteo-nunziati said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
Couple of things. Last time I've run bittorrent on a qnap it was way more slow then a pc. At the time no qos was there or I had missed it.
Google can apply limits. We have migrated our mails on google. Aprox the company had 90 gb mail uploaded. Google limited upload by no more than 3 mails per minute regardless of the size. Limit was on mail number.
Don't know if they apply similar restriction in storage.3 emails a min?
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@Dashrender said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
@matteo-nunziati said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
Couple of things. Last time I've run bittorrent on a qnap it was way more slow then a pc. At the time no qos was there or I had missed it.
Google can apply limits. We have migrated our mails on google. Aprox the company had 90 gb mail uploaded. Google limited upload by no more than 3 mails per minute regardless of the size. Limit was on mail number.
Don't know if they apply similar restriction in storage.3 emails a min?
sorry, messed up numbers: 1 mail every 3 seconds
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@matteo-nunziati said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
@Dashrender said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
@matteo-nunziati said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
Couple of things. Last time I've run bittorrent on a qnap it was way more slow then a pc. At the time no qos was there or I had missed it.
Google can apply limits. We have migrated our mails on google. Aprox the company had 90 gb mail uploaded. Google limited upload by no more than 3 mails per minute regardless of the size. Limit was on mail number.
Don't know if they apply similar restriction in storage.3 emails a min?
sorry, messed up numbers: 1 mail every 3 seconds
That's still amazingly slow.
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I have applied QoS for NAS box by 4MBps, not sure if it's enough ? and following is the status QNAP's Google Cloud backup software when I triggered full backup data (around 8TB) :
Expected finishing date is terrible : Around after two months
Transfer rate : 1.79MBps (before applying QoS, it was 606.29 KBps) and don't know why it's not boosting upto 4MBps ?
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@openit said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
I have applied QoS for NAS box by 4MBps, not sure if it's enough ? and following is the status QNAP's Google Cloud backup software when I triggered full backup data (around 8TB) :
Expected finishing date is terrible : Around after two months
Transfer rate : 1.79MBps (before applying QoS, it was 606.29 KBps) and don't know why it's not boosting upto 4MBps ?
You could use that maybe for archival or escrow purposes. Something you really don't need to restore from. Time to restore is important, too.
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@Tim_G said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
@openit said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
I have applied QoS for NAS box by 4MBps, not sure if it's enough ? and following is the status QNAP's Google Cloud backup software when I triggered full backup data (around 8TB) :
Expected finishing date is terrible : Around after two months
Transfer rate : 1.79MBps (before applying QoS, it was 606.29 KBps) and don't know why it's not boosting upto 4MBps ?
You could use that maybe for archival or escrow purposes. Something you really don't need to restore from. Time to restore is important, too.
Here I have chosen Nearline but not cold storage, because it's not Archive but Offsite Backup.
Are you saying to use for Archival because the performance doesn't seems to be practical ?
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@openit said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
@Tim_G said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
@openit said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
I have applied QoS for NAS box by 4MBps, not sure if it's enough ? and following is the status QNAP's Google Cloud backup software when I triggered full backup data (around 8TB) :
Expected finishing date is terrible : Around after two months
Transfer rate : 1.79MBps (before applying QoS, it was 606.29 KBps) and don't know why it's not boosting upto 4MBps ?
You could use that maybe for archival or escrow purposes. Something you really don't need to restore from. Time to restore is important, too.
Here I have chosen Nearline but not cold storage, because it's not Archive but Offsite Backup.
Are you saying to use for Archival because the performance doesn't seems to be practical ?
I'm saying that you normally use off-site backup for disaster recovery... if your onsite backup fails or a fire destroys everything. Then, you time for recovery from your "off-site" backup will be 2 months (unless they will ship you your data). Is that acceptable? But if you have other off-site backup, like tape in another facility, then you can use "cloud" backup as archival or escrow backup. Something you likely won't need to restore from, but it's there if the government wants something that's like 7 years old, or Iron Mountain blows up or something.
Edit: This is why if you do choose to do this, make sure they offer a way to send you your data in an acceptable timely manner. Many do, maybe they do too,.
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My point is that you shouldn't use "cloud" backup as a replacement for onsite backup. And if you do use something like that, it's fine if it slowly archives backups in the background, as your main on-site backups do their thing like normal, and you can restore if needed like normal.
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@Tim_G said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
@openit said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
@Tim_G said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
@openit said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
I have applied QoS for NAS box by 4MBps, not sure if it's enough ? and following is the status QNAP's Google Cloud backup software when I triggered full backup data (around 8TB) :
Expected finishing date is terrible : Around after two months
Transfer rate : 1.79MBps (before applying QoS, it was 606.29 KBps) and don't know why it's not boosting upto 4MBps ?
You could use that maybe for archival or escrow purposes. Something you really don't need to restore from. Time to restore is important, too.
Here I have chosen Nearline but not cold storage, because it's not Archive but Offsite Backup.
Are you saying to use for Archival because the performance doesn't seems to be practical ?
I'm saying that you normally use off-site backup for disaster recovery... if your onsite backup fails or a fire destroys everything. Then, you time for recovery from your "off-site" backup will be 2 months (unless they will ship you your data). Is that acceptable? But if you have other off-site backup, like tape in another facility, then you can use "cloud" backup as archival or escrow backup. Something you likely won't need to restore from, but it's there if the government wants something that's like 7 years old, or Iron Mountain blows up or something.
Edit: This is why if you do choose to do this, make sure they offer a way to send you your data in an acceptable timely manner. Many do, maybe they do too,.
Yes, this is for Offsite purpose and only wants to retrieve at the time, if we can't recover from Onsite backups. And I want to retrieve occasionally to test.
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@Tim_G said in Google Cloud as offsite backup. How to check if it's suitable for us or no and pricing ?:
My point is that you shouldn't use "cloud" backup as a replacement for onsite backup. And if you do use something like that, it's fine if it slowly archives backups in the background, as your main on-site backups do their thing like normal, and you can restore if needed like normal.
Of course not, we already have Onsite backup and from (Onsite backup) itself I am trying to push the data to Google Cloud (for Offsite purpose).
