3D PDF - Anyone Heard of This?



  • So my current employer is getting into the 3D PDF business, and I have to say this is probably the coolest thing I have seen Adobe Acrobat Reader be able to do with 3D CAD data. What this technology does is that it allows non-engineers to be able to consume engineering data in a easy format. Anyone else out there seen this type of technology before?



  • I have not, but it sounds very cool. Is it available now?



  • I heard about it some years ago but never dived into it ...



  • @Bill-Kindle said:

    So my current employer is getting into the 3D PDF business, and I have to say this is probably the coolest thing I have seen Adobe Acrobat Reader be able to do with 3D CAD data. What this technology does is that it allows non-engineers to be able to consume engineering data in a easy format. Anyone else out there seen this type of technology before?

    Have not seen that. What a great idea, though.



  • It is pretty cool, and the neat thing is that you don't need to have the CAD application on your PC to view the file, just the latest and greatest Adobe Reader. I sent a inquiry off to FoxIT Software to ask if they are incorporating this tech in their future reader and got a response that they were looking into it but it's not going to be available anytime soon. So, for now, Adobe's going to be the dominate force for reading these documents.



  • Bluebeam will work with CAD as well. http://www.bluebeam.com/us/products/revu/cad.asp
    We have been buying the CAD edition to eliminate using Acrobat Standard. If you just want to read the drawings and maybe print them, you can use the free Autodesk DWG TrueView app.



  • @DenisKelley said:

    Bluebeam will work with CAD as well. http://www.bluebeam.com/us/products/revu/cad.asp
    We have been buying the CAD edition to eliminate using Acrobat Standard. If you just want to read the drawings and maybe print them, you can use the free Autodesk DWG TrueView app.

    I don't believe those apps are quite the same thing. I'm talking the high-end CAD software realm, like CATIA and Siemens Unigraphics / Team Center.



  • @Bill-Kindle said:

    @DenisKelley said:

    Bluebeam will work with CAD as well. http://www.bluebeam.com/us/products/revu/cad.asp
    We have been buying the CAD edition to eliminate using Acrobat Standard. If you just want to read the drawings and maybe print them, you can use the free Autodesk DWG TrueView app.

    I don't believe those apps are quite the same thing. I'm talking the high-end CAD software realm, like CATIA and Siemens Unigraphics / Team Center.

    I thought you were talking about viewers for people who don't already use 3D CAD software. Yeah, we already have that with AutoCAD Civil3D and there are others. Sorry if I misunderstood you.



  • When I get some screenshots I'll try and post them here. We have some marketing material coming soon that talks about it.



  • Cool. Definitely interested.



  • I'd love to see it.



  • Here's a rough sample of Adobe. This does not contain any other nice features ATM, those are in the marketing material I'm told.
    2014-03-11 16_45_34-Bishop.pdf - Adobe Reader.png



  • @bill-kindle Ok, too freaking cool!



  • That's not even the half of it. I can pull in data and put that data into a custom template, giving you much more than shown here. But yeah, you can rotate that in 3D space, just like you would in a normal CAD app.



  • @Bill-Kindle Heard about it. PDF spec has many cool features....which can also be used for malevolence as PDF virus trend has shown.

    Good to see the 3D bits actually implemented.

    Also—



  • I agree with Rogue, I really don't like seeing the PDF format adding all of this functionality. I wish it would be a different file format and keep PDF back to their original purpose, cross platform identical printing/viewing. all these bonus features just add more avenues for hackers - Adobe has shown they can't make anywhere near clean code, flash anyone?



  • @Dashrender I understand your concern. But the way I understand the technology right now is that all its allowing you do do is see geometry in 3D space. You can't actually do a whole lot of anything with it other than get representations and other CAD related info. Not quite the same thing as a static picture embedded into a PDF.

    Right now I think a lot of the auto industry and their suppliers are going to be the primary benefactors of this tech.



  • @bill-kindle all it's allowing you to do, is allow virus writers to incorporate java-script and other programs that can take over your computer.

    I understand that Adobe is trying to be the single interface for anything you might view on your computer, but the risk is really just to great.

    If you're a company that needs to view 3D images and see geometry, you most likely already have free viewers for the products that produce the image files in the first place.

    Ultimately it's not that I don't want a single product that does it all, that would be great - But Reader has more security holes than Carter has little liver pills. it's as bad or worse than Java.



  • @Dashrender Not with the level of detail that the product I'm testing allows for. Adobe however was not the company that developed this tech, they bought the company that did develop it.



  • More technical info here for anyone interested in this technology:
    http://www.tetra4d.com/



  • what cad software is this from, we use autocad and i would love to have this. This would stop me from loading design view on everyones computer just so they can view the stupid 3d files.



  • @david.wiese said:

    what cad software is this from, we use autocad and i would love to have this. This would stop me from loading design view on everyones computer just so they can view the stupid 3d files.

    well the original link is something the company I work for is developing and will be releasing soon, I believe I captured some CATIA v5 data with that translator. The Tetra 4D company actually has a add-on to Adobe that pulls the data in to create the document.

    The company I work for is primarily working with NX, CATIA, JT, and PTC/WindChill.



  • NX as in NoMachine?



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    NX as in NoMachine?

    No, Siemens NX (used to be called Unigraphics or UGNX). Out of all the CAD platforms I've been introduced to this is my favorite, and if I were a designer, I would prefer NX.



  • I have seen 3D PDF's before. I used to work for a General Contractor and one of the Architectural firms used 3D models all the time. Layer support in PDF's is also pretty neat since you can Add and Remove layers from the PDF for easy viewing. Side note, Autodesk (The makers of Autocad) offer a free cad file viewer witch also allows for markups and measurements.



  • Bluebeam as shown above has just as much power..

    Love pulling models apart via 3D PDF... Will upload a snowmobile example or enviorodome cad examples. Makes it really awesome with BB doing markups & callouts...

    Bb vu is much lighter than cads viewers and dont have to Hunt down xrefs shx fonts and all the other things engineers won't send along with files



  • @BC said:

    Bluebeam as shown above has just as much power..

    Love pulling models apart via 3D PDF... Will upload a snowmobile example or enviorodome cad examples. Makes it really awesome with BB doing markups & callouts...

    Bb vu is much lighter than cads viewers and dont have to Hunt down xrefs shx fonts and all the other things engineers won't send along with files

    It's always the translators fault didn't you know ? 😜



  • Bluebeam Is much better than Acrobat Reader in all forms.



  • Never heard of Bluebeam.



  • @Kyle said:

    Bluebeam Is much better than Acrobat Reader in all forms.

    I think I might have to check it out. Thanks!


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