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    3D PDF - Anyone Heard of This?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Bill Kindle
      last edited by

      @Bill-Kindle said:

      So my current employer is getting into the 3D PDF business, and I have to say this is probably the coolest thing I have seen Adobe Acrobat Reader be able to do with 3D CAD data. What this technology does is that it allows non-engineers to be able to consume engineering data in a easy format. Anyone else out there seen this type of technology before?

      Have not seen that. What a great idea, though.

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      • Bill KindleB
        Bill Kindle
        last edited by

        It is pretty cool, and the neat thing is that you don't need to have the CAD application on your PC to view the file, just the latest and greatest Adobe Reader. I sent a inquiry off to FoxIT Software to ask if they are incorporating this tech in their future reader and got a response that they were looking into it but it's not going to be available anytime soon. So, for now, Adobe's going to be the dominate force for reading these documents.

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        • DenisKelleyD
          DenisKelley
          last edited by DenisKelley

          Bluebeam will work with CAD as well. http://www.bluebeam.com/us/products/revu/cad.asp
          We have been buying the CAD edition to eliminate using Acrobat Standard. If you just want to read the drawings and maybe print them, you can use the free Autodesk DWG TrueView app.

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          • Bill KindleB
            Bill Kindle @DenisKelley
            last edited by

            @DenisKelley said:

            Bluebeam will work with CAD as well. http://www.bluebeam.com/us/products/revu/cad.asp
            We have been buying the CAD edition to eliminate using Acrobat Standard. If you just want to read the drawings and maybe print them, you can use the free Autodesk DWG TrueView app.

            I don't believe those apps are quite the same thing. I'm talking the high-end CAD software realm, like CATIA and Siemens Unigraphics / Team Center.

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            • DenisKelleyD
              DenisKelley @Bill Kindle
              last edited by

              @Bill-Kindle said:

              @DenisKelley said:

              Bluebeam will work with CAD as well. http://www.bluebeam.com/us/products/revu/cad.asp
              We have been buying the CAD edition to eliminate using Acrobat Standard. If you just want to read the drawings and maybe print them, you can use the free Autodesk DWG TrueView app.

              I don't believe those apps are quite the same thing. I'm talking the high-end CAD software realm, like CATIA and Siemens Unigraphics / Team Center.

              I thought you were talking about viewers for people who don't already use 3D CAD software. Yeah, we already have that with AutoCAD Civil3D and there are others. Sorry if I misunderstood you.

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              • Bill KindleB
                Bill Kindle
                last edited by

                When I get some screenshots I'll try and post them here. We have some marketing material coming soon that talks about it.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  Cool. Definitely interested.

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                  • thanksajdotcomT
                    thanksajdotcom
                    last edited by

                    I'd love to see it.

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                    • Bill KindleB
                      Bill Kindle
                      last edited by

                      Here's a rough sample of Adobe. This does not contain any other nice features ATM, those are in the marketing material I'm told.
                      2014-03-11 16_45_34-Bishop.pdf - Adobe Reader.png

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom
                        last edited by

                        @bill-kindle Ok, too freaking cool!

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                        • Bill KindleB
                          Bill Kindle
                          last edited by

                          That's not even the half of it. I can pull in data and put that data into a custom template, giving you much more than shown here. But yeah, you can rotate that in 3D space, just like you would in a normal CAD app.

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                          • RoguePacketR
                            RoguePacket @Bill Kindle
                            last edited by

                            @Bill-Kindle Heard about it. PDF spec has many cool features....which can also be used for malevolence as PDF virus trend has shown.

                            Good to see the 3D bits actually implemented.

                            Also—

                            • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format#Standardized_subsets_of_PDF
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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              I agree with Rogue, I really don't like seeing the PDF format adding all of this functionality. I wish it would be a different file format and keep PDF back to their original purpose, cross platform identical printing/viewing. all these bonus features just add more avenues for hackers - Adobe has shown they can't make anywhere near clean code, flash anyone?

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                              • Bill KindleB
                                Bill Kindle @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender I understand your concern. But the way I understand the technology right now is that all its allowing you do do is see geometry in 3D space. You can't actually do a whole lot of anything with it other than get representations and other CAD related info. Not quite the same thing as a static picture embedded into a PDF.

                                Right now I think a lot of the auto industry and their suppliers are going to be the primary benefactors of this tech.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @bill-kindle all it's allowing you to do, is allow virus writers to incorporate java-script and other programs that can take over your computer.

                                  I understand that Adobe is trying to be the single interface for anything you might view on your computer, but the risk is really just to great.

                                  If you're a company that needs to view 3D images and see geometry, you most likely already have free viewers for the products that produce the image files in the first place.

                                  Ultimately it's not that I don't want a single product that does it all, that would be great - But Reader has more security holes than Carter has little liver pills. it's as bad or worse than Java.

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                                  • Bill KindleB
                                    Bill Kindle @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender Not with the level of detail that the product I'm testing allows for. Adobe however was not the company that developed this tech, they bought the company that did develop it.

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                                    • Bill KindleB
                                      Bill Kindle
                                      last edited by

                                      More technical info here for anyone interested in this technology:
                                      http://www.tetra4d.com/

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                                      • david.wieseD
                                        david.wiese
                                        last edited by

                                        what cad software is this from, we use autocad and i would love to have this. This would stop me from loading design view on everyones computer just so they can view the stupid 3d files.

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                                        • Bill KindleB
                                          Bill Kindle @david.wiese
                                          last edited by

                                          @david.wiese said:

                                          what cad software is this from, we use autocad and i would love to have this. This would stop me from loading design view on everyones computer just so they can view the stupid 3d files.

                                          well the original link is something the company I work for is developing and will be releasing soon, I believe I captured some CATIA v5 data with that translator. The Tetra 4D company actually has a add-on to Adobe that pulls the data in to create the document.

                                          The company I work for is primarily working with NX, CATIA, JT, and PTC/WindChill.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            NX as in NoMachine?

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