Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016
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Coming from me who doesn't deal with Microsoft. This whole thread sounds soo confusing.
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@stacksofplates said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:
Coming from me who doesn't deal with Microsoft. This whole thread sounds soo confusing.
Seriously. Everything around Azure, Azure AD and AD is ridiculous and unnecessarily confusing. From confusing tech to intentionally overlapping names.
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It sounds like a mixing of old and new ways to work.. /sigh.
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@Dashrender said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:
It sounds like a mixing of old and new ways to work.. /sigh.
That's exactly what it is. Just gatewaying to a traditional AD server.
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At least it doesn't require on-premises AD. It's "all cloud". It just seems like they are deploying a traditional or perhaps publicly unavailable version of AD to instances you can't see.
I have found a couple Microsoft-supported ways to use RDS on Vultr. There is a workgroup mode and a Microsoft support article says deploying AD on the RDS server is appropriate in small environments where there is one server. I could then at least sync to Office 365.
I was also looking at JumpCloud, some kind of cloud directory service probably similar to Amazons. I could possibly join 2016 server to that and sync that back with Office 365. But I haven't seen anyone talking about it out there.
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@bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:
At least it doesn't require on-premises AD. It's "all cloud".
Sort of but the way you are saying it is wrong. It's the same "on premises AD" that you run, it's just hosted elsewhere, the same as we've always done. So it's nothing new. We were doing AD on Azure or AD on Vultr long before there was Azure AD.
If that is all that you are getting, you can spin up a Windows instance on Vultr, make it a DC, install your VPN of choice and ta da.
Yes, it's "all cloud" but AD was always all cloud by that logic.
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@bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:
I was also looking at JumpCloud, some kind of cloud directory service probably similar to Amazons. I could possibly join 2016 server to that and sync that back with Office 365. But I haven't seen anyone talking about it out there.
Post a thread about it, JumpCloud is in the community here.
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@scottalanmiller said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:
@bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:
At least it doesn't require on-premises AD. It's "all cloud".
Sort of but the way you are saying it is wrong. It's the same "on premises AD" that you run, it's just hosted elsewhere, the same as we've always done. So it's nothing new. We were doing AD on Azure or AD on Vultr long before there was Azure AD.
If that is all that you are getting, you can spin up a Windows instance on Vultr, make it a DC, install your VPN of choice and ta da.
Yes, it's "all cloud" but AD was always all cloud by that logic.
The difference seems to be that you cant access that VM or manage it. And from what I am reading there are some differences between the Azure AD DC on a premise AD deployment. I will search back and post.
Because I didn't control a VM and DCPROMO in that whole process.
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@bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:
The difference seems to be that you cant access that VM or manage it.
Right, MS is an MSP here on your behalf. That's all.
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Which I think isn't bad, if we had 20 or 30 users I would say it justifies the cost. But spinning up 2016 on a virtual vultr vm now to see how it performs. I had one running before but did not pay attention to the streaming video/audio stuff.
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@bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:
Which I think isn't bad, if we had 20 or 30 users I would say it justifies the cost. But spinning up 2016 on a virtual vultr vm now to see how it performs. I had one running before but did not pay attention to the streaming video/audio stuff.
The real trick here is, once you realize what it is and it is just a hosted AD server. Then that you can do that better on Vultr. Then you realize... WAIT, why am I using Windows for this? I can do it for $2.50 on Vultr with Linux!
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@scottalanmiller said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:
@bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:
Which I think isn't bad, if we had 20 or 30 users I would say it justifies the cost. But spinning up 2016 on a virtual vultr vm now to see how it performs. I had one running before but did not pay attention to the streaming video/audio stuff.
The real trick here is, once you realize what it is and it is just a hosted AD server. Then that you can do that better on Vultr. Then you realize... WAIT, why am I using Windows for this? I can do it for $2.50 on Vultr with Linux!
In every case I agree except this one, lol. Giving winblows desktops to my team with access to all the CAD/Office drawings that run in windows apps is what I need.
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@bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:
@scottalanmiller said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:
@bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:
Which I think isn't bad, if we had 20 or 30 users I would say it justifies the cost. But spinning up 2016 on a virtual vultr vm now to see how it performs. I had one running before but did not pay attention to the streaming video/audio stuff.
The real trick here is, once you realize what it is and it is just a hosted AD server. Then that you can do that better on Vultr. Then you realize... WAIT, why am I using Windows for this? I can do it for $2.50 on Vultr with Linux!
In every case I agree except this one, lol. Giving winblows desktops to my team with access to all the CAD/Office drawings that run in windows apps is what I need.
Not what I meant. I meant your AD server, there is no reason for it to be Windows. It can be a Linux AD server running on Vultr.
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And a Linux AD server will be something like $2.50 - $5/mo. Whereas a Windows AD server will be like $26/mo.
