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    • bigbearB
      bigbear @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

      With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.

      You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

      Its a very low i/o situation. Almost like 2.8TB of live archive file access and 200GB of moderately used data.

      Would like a single box solution. Was thinking just NAS with some cloud Azure AD would be sufficient.

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      • art_of_shredA
        art_of_shred Banned @mroth911
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        @mroth911 said in New Server for the office:

        I have a scale 3 node cluster for sale?

        You don't sound very sure of it.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @bigbear
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          @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

          @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

          With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.

          You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

          Its a very low i/o situation. Almost like 2.8TB of live archive file access and 200GB of moderately used data.

          Would like a single box solution. Was thinking just NAS with some cloud Azure AD would be sufficient.

          And if that single box catches on fire?

          What is in place currently, nothing? What is running the business as a whole, that is now splitting?

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @bigbear
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            @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

            @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

            With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.

            You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

            Its a very low i/o situation. Almost like 2.8TB of live archive file access and 200GB of moderately used data.

            Would like a single box solution. Was thinking just NAS with some cloud Azure AD would be sufficient.

            Yep, all hosted could be an option as well. I know prices for just storage have really dropped, transport is where a lot of cost is on cloud solutions.

            You've always got WholesaleInternet.com as well. Just went through a failing hard drive replacement on my box I have with them, and they were good through the entire process. No helping hand with figuring out what was wrong, but I didn't expect that either.

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            • mroth911M
              mroth911
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              i have a scale 3 node cluster that I am selling. I am very sure of selling it . IT is about 5 months old.

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              • bigbearB
                bigbear @travisdh1
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                @travisdh1 Discovering vultr.com has really blown everything else away for me.

                I have to have the data local because browsing all the huge files at a moments notice for a tower permit or a maritime deployment involves perusing 100gbs of data quickly at a moments notice.

                We have an oct192 here and it still isn't feasible lol

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                • bigbearB
                  bigbear @mroth911
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                  @mroth911 I was checking out the videos, I think its probably huge overkill for my needs but it looks interesting. I am shopping around right now at about $5k for what I think is going to suit me.

                  I will definitely keep you in mind as I deal with a lot of IT people. What is the best application for a scale cluster?

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                  • mroth911M
                    mroth911
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                    @bigbear Sky is the limit with scale. Right now I am using it to host Websites. The hyper visor is insane and also up and running. there support is top notch as well.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @bigbear
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                      @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                      @JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:

                      I have not looked at MicroTik in probably a decade

                      They rely heavily on partners and I dont think there is any good marketing to the U.S. Since I have dealt with them they remind me of dealing with Ubiquiti or Ruckus in their earlier days. A lean/mean company that makes everything in house.

                      RouterBoard hardware incredible, I dont know how they stay so far ahead with RouterOS thought.

                      Oh I'm quite well aware of the brand it's just not not something I've considered for production for 10 years or so I should probably take another serious look at it

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
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                        For your solution my question is why are you even looking at Azure AD?

                        It sounds to me that you only need to file shares of some kind.

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @bigbear
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                          @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                          @mroth911 I was checking out the videos, I think its probably huge overkill for my needs but it looks interesting. I am shopping around right now at about $5k for what I think is going to suit me.

                          I will definitely keep you in mind as I deal with a lot of IT people. What is the best application for a scale cluster?

                          Scale clusters were designed with the idea of replacing VMWare clusters. They're even better if you're in a greenfield environment. A cluster gives you compute and storage, you just have to bring the network (10gb/s recommended for the cluster interconnects). I've seen live demos of the system and it's quite impressive.

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                          • bigbearB
                            bigbear @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:

                            For your solution my question is why are you even looking at Azure AD?

                            It sounds to me that you only need to file shares of some kind.

                            Yeah I think figuring out the best storage (some type of raid, a jbod, etc) is the big priority.

                            The only reason I would want AD at this point is to manage/lock out new and departing employees. And there is going to big a bit of a shake up over the next few months. I don't really need to lock users down at this point, everyone is some sort of engineer or power user here.

                            The idea of the basic/free AD and not managing a local DC appeals to me.

                            I would also be looking to apply that directory service to the file shares.

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                            • bigbearB
                              bigbear @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:

                              Oh I'm quite well aware of the brand it's just not not something I've considered for production for 10 years or so I should probably take another serious look at it

                              I know everything is preference. Ubiquiti has had some hiccups and I am also fond of peplink. With RouterOS it just seems like the sky is the limit and they have a lot of hardware options or you can run it yourself. For under $5000 you can get 24 million pps from their cloud router. We have a high bandwidth environment here so you can really tell the difference.

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @bigbear
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                                @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                                @JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:

                                Oh I'm quite well aware of the brand it's just not not something I've considered for production for 10 years or so I should probably take another serious look at it

                                I know everything is preference. Ubiquiti has had some hiccups and I am also fond of peplink. With RouterOS it just seems like the sky is the limit and they have a lot of hardware options or you can run it yourself. For under $5000 you can get 24 million pps from their cloud router. We have a high bandwidth environment here so you can really tell the difference.

                                Now that is impressive. I don't think Ubiquiti offers anything with that sort of performance. I that a 12 port 10gb?

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                                • bigbearB
                                  bigbear @travisdh1
                                  last edited by bigbear

                                  @travisdh1 said in New Server for the office:

                                  @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                                  @JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:

                                  Oh I'm quite well aware of the brand it's just not not something I've considered for production for 10 years or so I should probably take another serious look at it

                                  I know everything is preference. Ubiquiti has had some hiccups and I am also fond of peplink. With RouterOS it just seems like the sky is the limit and they have a lot of hardware options or you can run it yourself. For under $5000 you can get 24 million pps from their cloud router. We have a high bandwidth environment here so you can really tell the difference.

                                  Now that is impressive. I don't think Ubiquiti offers anything with that sort of performance. I that a 12 port 10gb?

                                  Sorry I meant to say for under $500!

                                  Google this model
                                  CCR1016-12S-1S+

                                  But also for under $100 they have models, I think even down to $60 that are a lot faster than Ubiquiti.

                                  And you can license RouterOS to a hard drive or SSD for $45. You have to be careful about reloading cause you can lose your license.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                                    @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                                    The only reason I would want AD at this point is to manage/lock out new and departing employees. And there is going to big a bit of a shake up over the next few months. I don't really need to lock users down at this point, everyone is some sort of engineer or power user here.

                                    The idea of the basic/free AD and not managing a local DC appeals to me.

                                    Azure AD and even something like Ansible can do that for you, though. No need for MS AD servers. And if you really want AD anyway, Linux can do that for free. But it is not "basic", it's the full thing.

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                                    • bigbearB
                                      bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller NIS?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @bigbear
                                        last edited by

                                        @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                                        I will definitely keep you in mind as I deal with a lot of IT people. What is the best application for a scale cluster?

                                        It's a general purpose hyperconvergence cluster. So its standard application is as your "entire infrastructure", not including your switches and routers of course. It's a lot like having your own cloud in house, you can just "spin up" whatever VMs you need from a web gui. All of your storage and high availability is baked in so you get a single, very easy to manage system like using something like Digital Ocean, but on premises or in your own colo and with your control of the capacity.

                                        We have a six node @Scale HC3 hosted by @colocationamerica it's a sweet setup.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                                          @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                                          @scottalanmiller NIS?

                                          LOL, no.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                                            @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                                            @travisdh1 Discovering vultr.com has really blown everything else away for me.

                                            They are great. We used to use a lot of providers but have scaled back to only Vultr and Linode now. No one else competes with them for our needs.

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