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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

      @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

      @coliver said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

      @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

      Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

      Try binding to it.

      I worded this wrong. Sorry.

      This is a secondary DC. I didn't think you could specify the domain controller, it's just round robin. How do I verify that it's working.

      Shut down all the other DC when you test?
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      just remember to /wrists

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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        @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

        @coliver said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

        @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

        Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

        Try binding to it.

        I worded this wrong. Sorry.

        This is a secondary DC. I didn't think you could specify the domain controller, it's just round robin. How do I verify that it's working.

        Second DC, not secondary. Haven't been secondary DCs ever in Active Directory. That terminology is mistakenly brought over from the PDC/BDC days of Windows NT and the SAM system that pre-dates AD. Once AD replaced SAM, there was no more secondary concepts.

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

          @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

          @coliver said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

          @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

          Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

          Try binding to it.

          I worded this wrong. Sorry.

          This is a secondary DC. I didn't think you could specify the domain controller, it's just round robin. How do I verify that it's working.

          Second DC, not secondary. Haven't been secondary DCs ever in Active Directory. That terminology is mistakenly brought over from the PDC/BDC days of Windows NT and the SAM system that pre-dates AD. Once AD replaced SAM, there was no more secondary concepts.

          non FSMO DC?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
            last edited by

            @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

            @scottalanmiller said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

            @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

            @coliver said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

            @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

            Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

            Try binding to it.

            I worded this wrong. Sorry.

            This is a secondary DC. I didn't think you could specify the domain controller, it's just round robin. How do I verify that it's working.

            Second DC, not secondary. Haven't been secondary DCs ever in Active Directory. That terminology is mistakenly brought over from the PDC/BDC days of Windows NT and the SAM system that pre-dates AD. Once AD replaced SAM, there was no more secondary concepts.

            non FSMO DC?

            Think of it as a "Member DC" rather than a "Solo DC". What matters is that it is not alone.

            FSMO roles do matter, but only in that post DC setup they should be moved over.

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            • coliverC
              coliver
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              Wait. Sorry this is a second DC in your current domain or a secondary domain?

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @coliver
                last edited by wirestyle22

                @coliver said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                Wait. Sorry this is a second DC in your current domain or a secondary domain?

                Second DC. Sorry, I wrote it wrong.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22
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                  Another question I have is: Does the hypervisor need to be syncing with the time server or is that only important for the VM's?

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @wirestyle22
                    last edited by

                    @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                    @coliver said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                    Wait. Sorry this is a second DC in your current domain or a secondary domain?

                    Second DC. Sorry I wrote it wrong.

                    No problem. If that's the case you can use powershell to test against it. You'll also want to take a look at repadmin to make sure that replication is going through correctly.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @wirestyle22
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                      @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                      Another question I have is: Does the hypervisor need to be syncing with the time server or is that only important for the VM's?

                      It's less important but it's generally a good idea to have everything sync to the same time server.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @coliver
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                        @coliver said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                        Another question I have is: Does the hypervisor need to be syncing with the time server or is that only important for the VM's?

                        It's less important but it's generally a good idea to have everything sync to the same time server.

                        I disable time sync to the Hypervisor always. It is never anything but trouble.

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                        • Son of Jor-ElS
                          Son of Jor-El @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                          @coliver said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                          Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

                          Try binding to it.

                          I worded this wrong. Sorry.

                          This is a secondary DC. I didn't think you could specify the domain controller, it's just round robin. How do I verify that it's working.

                          Second DC, not secondary. Haven't been secondary DCs ever in Active Directory. That terminology is mistakenly brought over from the PDC/BDC days of Windows NT and the SAM system that pre-dates AD. Once AD replaced SAM, there was no more secondary concepts.

                          Quoted for truth. Glad you pointed this out. That terminology needs to die so no one gets confused.

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @Son of Jor-El
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                            @Son-of-Jor-El said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                            @coliver said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Converting Secondary Domain from Physical to VM:

                            Is there a way for me to verify this secondary domain is functioning as intended?

                            Try binding to it.

                            I worded this wrong. Sorry.

                            This is a secondary DC. I didn't think you could specify the domain controller, it's just round robin. How do I verify that it's working.

                            Second DC, not secondary. Haven't been secondary DCs ever in Active Directory. That terminology is mistakenly brought over from the PDC/BDC days of Windows NT and the SAM system that pre-dates AD. Once AD replaced SAM, there was no more secondary concepts.

                            Quoted for truth. Glad you pointed this out. That terminology needs to die so no one gets confused.

                            He's corrected me at least ten times and I still keep doing it. Trying to get it out of my head completely.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22
                              last edited by wirestyle22

                              I'm most likely going to need to create another thread this weekend. Going to make a from scratch domain + domain controller as if we were just establishing a business.

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                                Texkonc
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                                I learned this the hard way to never ever do again. When the DB on a particular DC is effed and then randomly does weird crap like lets say deleting users....

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                                  Texkonc @wirestyle22
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                                  @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                  I'm most likely going to need to create another thread this weekend. Going to make a from scratch domain + domain controller as if we were just establishing a business.

                                  Why?
                                  Starting from scratch will mean the users will have to join a new domain, meaning their user profile will be changed on the desktops. You know how users fear change...

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @Texkonc
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                                    @Texkonc said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                    I'm most likely going to need to create another thread this weekend. Going to make a from scratch domain + domain controller as if we were just establishing a business.

                                    Why?
                                    Starting from scratch will mean the users will have to join a new domain, meaning their user profile will be changed on the desktops. You know how users fear change...

                                    I'll be doing it at home (weekend). Sorry. I have a test environment at my place.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                      @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                      I'm most likely going to need to create another thread this weekend. Going to make a from scratch domain + domain controller as if we were just establishing a business.

                                      Very good thing to have done and know how to do. You should do it with Windows 2008 R2, 2016 and Linux to see what you have now, what current is like and what the alternative approach is.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Texkonc
                                        last edited by

                                        @Texkonc said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                        I'm most likely going to need to create another thread this weekend. Going to make a from scratch domain + domain controller as if we were just establishing a business.

                                        Why?
                                        Starting from scratch will mean the users will have to join a new domain, meaning their user profile will be changed on the desktops. You know how users fear change...

                                        I think that he means at home for educational purposes.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                          last edited by

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                          @Texkonc said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                          I'm most likely going to need to create another thread this weekend. Going to make a from scratch domain + domain controller as if we were just establishing a business.

                                          Why?
                                          Starting from scratch will mean the users will have to join a new domain, meaning their user profile will be changed on the desktops. You know how users fear change...

                                          I'll be doing it at home (weekend). Sorry. I have a test environment at my place.

                                          This falls under "one of those tasks you should definitely have on your home lab list" if you want to work in Windows, SMB or desktop administration arenas. A lot of people who work with AD at work will run AD at home full time. I've had AD (or its predecessor) for my home machines since 1997 or 1998. I've never run stand alone machines at home.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                            @Texkonc said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Converting Second Domain Controller from Physical to VM:

                                            I'm most likely going to need to create another thread this weekend. Going to make a from scratch domain + domain controller as if we were just establishing a business.

                                            Why?
                                            Starting from scratch will mean the users will have to join a new domain, meaning their user profile will be changed on the desktops. You know how users fear change...

                                            I'll be doing it at home (weekend). Sorry. I have a test environment at my place.

                                            This falls under "one of those tasks you should definitely have on your home lab list" if you want to work in Windows, SMB or desktop administration arenas. A lot of people who work with AD at work will run AD at home full time. I've had AD (or its predecessor) for my home machines since 1997 or 1998. I've never run stand alone machines at home.

                                            servers paying dividends

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