What Are You Doing Right Now
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just found out my coworker is putting in his resignation - which means start of the new year me and my boss are rotating on call every other week.
yay.Not trying to replace the person?
Haven't heard of a plan yet, but even if we do, I'll have to switch every other week on call until that person is trained up to do on call which usually takes 3 months.
let me put it like this - we've had 3 people in this office for 2 years, prior to that we had 4 people - on left and went to a different field completely - so 3 of us in our office 9 in the ankeny "Home" office - 3 week rotation for on call.
we've asked multiple times to get a 4th and were told that we didn't need 4 people when in reality we have been doing the work of 7 people in our office for the last 2 years - managing now 4 different pos systems between 3 people.Time to leave. The market is SO good. It'll never be this good again in your lifetime. Take any better paying job to get out, now.
If you don't, you prove their point. Why hire more people when they can get you to cover the difference for free?
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just found out my coworker is putting in his resignation - which means start of the new year me and my boss are rotating on call every other week.
yay.Not trying to replace the person?
Haven't heard of a plan yet, but even if we do, I'll have to switch every other week on call until that person is trained up to do on call which usually takes 3 months.
That's a ridiculously long time. One month, sure. Two, maybe at a stretch. Three? WTF.
No one should even stay in that job that long.
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just found out my coworker is putting in his resignation - which means start of the new year me and my boss are rotating on call every other week.
yay.Not trying to replace the person?
Haven't heard of a plan yet, but even if we do, I'll have to switch every other week on call until that person is trained up to do on call which usually takes 3 months.
let me put it like this - we've had 3 people in this office for 2 years, prior to that we had 4 people - on left and went to a different field completely - so 3 of us in our office 9 in the ankeny "Home" office - 3 week rotation for on call.
we've asked multiple times to get a 4th and were told that we didn't need 4 people when in reality we have been doing the work of 7 people in our office for the last 2 years - managing now 4 different pos systems between 3 people.The other option, of course, is to use your leverage and set your own price. It's just the manager and you. They can't fire you, there's no one to cover and they have little ability to hire. And like you said, three months to train. That doesn't just mean three months of no coverage, it's also three months of your manager tied up.
So you hold ALL the cards, but only for the moment. If you don't seize this opportunity, you should resign yourself to having committed as much as it is humanly possible to accepting them as your sole employer for life. You'll never be able to justify discussing leaving again. Or a raise.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just found out my coworker is putting in his resignation - which means start of the new year me and my boss are rotating on call every other week.
yay.Not trying to replace the person?
Haven't heard of a plan yet, but even if we do, I'll have to switch every other week on call until that person is trained up to do on call which usually takes 3 months.
That's a ridiculously long time. One month, sure. Two, maybe at a stretch. Three? WTF.
No one should even stay in that job that long.
90 days, is the period where you learn the ins and outs of POS systems etc. IDK this is exactly what I did / had to do then I was on call with company vehicle to drive to and from work.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just found out my coworker is putting in his resignation - which means start of the new year me and my boss are rotating on call every other week.
yay.Not trying to replace the person?
Haven't heard of a plan yet, but even if we do, I'll have to switch every other week on call until that person is trained up to do on call which usually takes 3 months.
let me put it like this - we've had 3 people in this office for 2 years, prior to that we had 4 people - on left and went to a different field completely - so 3 of us in our office 9 in the ankeny "Home" office - 3 week rotation for on call.
we've asked multiple times to get a 4th and were told that we didn't need 4 people when in reality we have been doing the work of 7 people in our office for the last 2 years - managing now 4 different pos systems between 3 people.The other option, of course, is to use your leverage and set your own price. It's just the manager and you. They can't fire you, there's no one to cover and they have little ability to hire. And like you said, three months to train. That doesn't just mean three months of no coverage, it's also three months of your manager tied up.
So you hold ALL the cards, but only for the moment. If you don't seize this opportunity, you should resign yourself to having committed as much as it is humanly possible to accepting them as your sole employer for life. You'll never be able to justify discussing leaving again. Or a raise.
not only him leaving, but the current "Brink Admin" retires january 1st 2022 - and I get pushed into that position.
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What sucks even more is I just started a night job as a bouncer at one of the biggest / best clubs in the US which happens to be in downtown Omaha - so now I'll have to leave that job completely due to my son and oncall schedule conflicts.
it really just screws everything up - so I'll be opening the conversation and pushing for the changes I need to have made - made. -
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
What sucks even more is I just started a night job as a bouncer at one of the biggest / best clubs in the US which happens to be in downtown Omaha - so now I'll have to leave that job completely due to my son and oncall schedule conflicts.
WHy not keep that one instead of this one?
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
What sucks even more is I just started a night job as a bouncer at one of the biggest / best clubs in the US which happens to be in downtown Omaha - so now I'll have to leave that job completely due to my son and oncall schedule conflicts.WHy not keep that one instead of this one?
because I work 1 day a week down there for cash under the table
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
it really just screws everything up - so I'll be opening the conversation and pushing for the changes I need to have made - made.
You've got to either strong arm this or just walk. There are SO many job openings now. You've let them push you around for so long that they're unlikely to ever consider anything else at this point. And you've grown so accustomed to accepting what they do, it is going to be really hard to stand up and consistently take command of the situation.
It's time to talk about things like "management", "autonomy" and "double your salary" kind of terms.
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
What sucks even more is I just started a night job as a bouncer at one of the biggest / best clubs in the US which happens to be in downtown Omaha - so now I'll have to leave that job completely due to my son and oncall schedule conflicts.WHy not keep that one instead of this one?
because I work 1 day a week down there for cash under the table
Oh, maybe ask them for five days?
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
What sucks even more is I just started a night job as a bouncer at one of the biggest / best clubs in the US which happens to be in downtown Omaha - so now I'll have to leave that job completely due to my son and oncall schedule conflicts.WHy not keep that one instead of this one?
because I work 1 day a week down there for cash under the table
Oh, maybe ask them for five days?
Possibly
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You could always take a job bouncing or bartending or similar at night. Just make sure it is the same or better pay than you get currently. Then start your own POS consulting during the day when you have available time.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
You could always take a job bouncing or bartending or similar at night. Just make sure it is the same or better pay than you get currently. Then start your own POS consulting during the day when you have available time.
That would be difficult to do - would it not?
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
You could always take a job bouncing or bartending or similar at night. Just make sure it is the same or better pay than you get currently. Then start your own POS consulting during the day when you have available time.
That would be difficult to do - would it not?
Which part? Finding a good night gig? Probably not that hard. Starting your own POS firm? Should be pretty easy.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
You could always take a job bouncing or bartending or similar at night. Just make sure it is the same or better pay than you get currently. Then start your own POS consulting during the day when you have available time.
That would be difficult to do - would it not?
Which part? Finding a good night gig? Probably not that hard. Starting your own POS firm? Should be pretty easy.
starting my own POS firm. I dont know the first thing about it.
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
You could always take a job bouncing or bartending or similar at night. Just make sure it is the same or better pay than you get currently. Then start your own POS consulting during the day when you have available time.
That would be difficult to do - would it not?
Which part? Finding a good night gig? Probably not that hard. Starting your own POS firm? Should be pretty easy.
starting my own POS firm. I dont know the first thing about it.
What don't you know? You know the support portion already. that would seem like the hardest part.
Next is to find out what it takes to sell that POS software - what those companies require for you to be reseller.
Then go find some clients.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
You could always take a job bouncing or bartending or similar at night. Just make sure it is the same or better pay than you get currently. Then start your own POS consulting during the day when you have available time.
That would be difficult to do - would it not?
Which part? Finding a good night gig? Probably not that hard. Starting your own POS firm? Should be pretty easy.
starting my own POS firm. I dont know the first thing about it.
What don't you know? You know the support portion already. that would seem like the hardest part.
Next is to find out what it takes to sell that POS software - what those companies require for you to be reseller.
Then go find some clients.
You say it as if it is simple.
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
You could always take a job bouncing or bartending or similar at night. Just make sure it is the same or better pay than you get currently. Then start your own POS consulting during the day when you have available time.
That would be difficult to do - would it not?
Which part? Finding a good night gig? Probably not that hard. Starting your own POS firm? Should be pretty easy.
starting my own POS firm. I dont know the first thing about it.
You've been doing POS for years. Other than hiring someone to file your incorporation paperwork, there's not much more to know. Get out there and service some POS!
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
You could always take a job bouncing or bartending or similar at night. Just make sure it is the same or better pay than you get currently. Then start your own POS consulting during the day when you have available time.
That would be difficult to do - would it not?
Which part? Finding a good night gig? Probably not that hard. Starting your own POS firm? Should be pretty easy.
starting my own POS firm. I dont know the first thing about it.
What don't you know? You know the support portion already. that would seem like the hardest part.
Next is to find out what it takes to sell that POS software - what those companies require for you to be reseller.
Then go find some clients.
You say it as if it is simple.
Because... it is. Not like ordering a sandwich simple. But pretty darn simple in the grand scheme of things. Like super simple.
Lots of us here have started our own firms. It's almost part and parcel with being in IT. IT is a business discipline. If you can't start your own firm, you've got some critical IT gaps that you should fill. And one of the best ways to force yourself to learn that stuff is... starting your own firm.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
You could always take a job bouncing or bartending or similar at night. Just make sure it is the same or better pay than you get currently. Then start your own POS consulting during the day when you have available time.
That would be difficult to do - would it not?
Which part? Finding a good night gig? Probably not that hard. Starting your own POS firm? Should be pretty easy.
starting my own POS firm. I dont know the first thing about it.
You've been doing POS for years. Other than hiring someone to file your incorporation paperwork, there's not much more to know. Get out there and service some POS!
Doing POS support isn't a problem, Finding customers and building a client base
