What Are You Doing Right Now
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I can see lights flicker, I can also hear them, it sucks. But I can't see games at that same speed, the movement makes that unrealistic. I do know one guy who can see over 65 Hz. It really sucked for us in the pre-LCD days. We always had to buy "special" monitors that could do 85 Hz. The difference was unbelievable. One was a continuous headache and this odd, not quite there, but not quite not there flicker thing going on. The screen was unstable. That is partially why I loved non-GUI systems back in the day, the old terminals had low refresh rates but they have very high persistence screens so they were blurry rather than flickery.
Once we moved up to 85Hz the screen would be rock solid.
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Nearly time to call it a day. And tomorrow is Friday!
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@dominica is dealing with a rental house that she and her whole family are renting tomorrow that, at the last second, tried to cancel on her and force her to pay a huge extortion fee to have a place to stay. Not fun.
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@scottalanmiller Same reason I'm very unhappy with my 30hz 4K monitor. Should have waited and got the 60.
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I don't see the lights flicker, but I could definitely tell when someone was using 60 Hz on a monitor. Anything higher and I was fine.
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Ugh, I can't imagine trying to use a 30Hz display!
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@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller Same reason I'm very unhappy with my 30hz 4K monitor. Should have waited and got the 60.
what content do you have driving a 4K? is anything even recorded in 4k yet?
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@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller Same reason I'm very unhappy with my 30hz 4K monitor. Should have waited and got the 60.
what content do you have driving a 4K? is anything even recorded in 4k yet?
If I remember correctly the new GoPro's record natively in 4K.
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@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller Same reason I'm very unhappy with my 30hz 4K monitor. Should have waited and got the 60.
what content do you have driving a 4K? is anything even recorded in 4k yet?
Almost everything professionally made is recorded at 4k or 6k Not everyone is doing 4k deliverables yet.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller Same reason I'm very unhappy with my 30hz 4K monitor. Should have waited and got the 60.
what content do you have driving a 4K? is anything even recorded in 4k yet?
Almost everything professionally made is recorded at 4k or 6k Not everyone is doing 4k deliverables yet.
Cool, didn't know that.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller Same reason I'm very unhappy with my 30hz 4K monitor. Should have waited and got the 60.
what content do you have driving a 4K? is anything even recorded in 4k yet?
If I remember correctly the new GoPro's record natively in 4K.
Now that I read this, I do seem to recall hearing that before.. Damn how fast do you fill a 64 GB flash stick?
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller Same reason I'm very unhappy with my 30hz 4K monitor. Should have waited and got the 60.
what content do you have driving a 4K? is anything even recorded in 4k yet?
If I remember correctly the new GoPro's record natively in 4K.
But it uses a Horrible GOP codec with lots of P Frames and less I frames.. ugh.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller Same reason I'm very unhappy with my 30hz 4K monitor. Should have waited and got the 60.
what content do you have driving a 4K? is anything even recorded in 4k yet?
If I remember correctly the new GoPro's record natively in 4K.
But it uses a Horrible GOP codec with lots of P Frames and less I frames.. ugh.
I know nothing about video recording, I understand P frames and I frames just not much else.
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller Same reason I'm very unhappy with my 30hz 4K monitor. Should have waited and got the 60.
what content do you have driving a 4K? is anything even recorded in 4k yet?
If I remember correctly the new GoPro's record natively in 4K.
Now that I read this, I do seem to recall hearing that before.. Damn how fast do you fill a 64 GB flash stick?
Depends on the bitrate of the H.264 it's using. We fill 240GB SSDs in no time 2-3 seconds will get you 5-8GB of footage with higher bit rate codecs (not H.264)
H.264 is a GOP so the length will also be determined by how much data and motion is in your footage. It's a VBR codec.
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What kind of real bandwidth do you need to stream a full 4k program?
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@coliver said:
If I remember correctly the new GoPro's record natively in 4K.
Only the top end Hero4 Black does that. But it does, yes, that's why we chose it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
If I remember correctly the new GoPro's record natively in 4K.
Only the top end Hero4 Black does that. But it does, yes, that's why we chose it.
Why? because you want to be able to zoom to ridiculous levels and see your nose hairs
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@Dashrender said:
What kind of real bandwidth do you need to stream a full 4k program?
Really depends on the codec. 4K is only the resolution. How you compress it plays an enormous factor. Netflix UltraHD 4K is 16Mb/s.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
What kind of real bandwidth do you need to stream a full 4k program?
Really depends on the codec. 4K is only the resolution. How you compress it plays an enormous factor. Netflix UltraHD 4K is 16Mb/s.
That's not a small ask, even today.
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@Dashrender said:
What kind of real bandwidth do you need to stream a full 4k program?
Not as much as you'd think streaming is almost always AVC H.264 or AVC H.265 4k can easily be as low as 10Mbps. The problem is there is a lot of resources used in decoding the codec so some peoples CPU/GPUs may not keep up.
