What Are You Doing Right Now
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We as a team only attend those taught/given by team members. Other than that I hang out with the Vendors and with other SpiceHeads. That is where the value is.
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No poo!
No RAID or backplane
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@coliver said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@travisdh1 said:
@hobbit666 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
What is this, lol.
One of the reasons I seem to be going on SW more and more
I kinda feel like making it to the 2015 Austin Spice World was the last hurrah. The.... sponsorship.... is getting deep.
It was my first and last SpiceWorld... several of the sessions were an utter waste of time... had nothing to do with the topic they said they were going to be. I was extremely disappointed in it.
It was my second Spiceworld. I didn't really attend for the sessions, although I attended an HP one that was supposed to be about end user computing and preparing for BYOD but was basically a big infomercial for the new products.
The interaction with other people, specifically IT pros, was where I saw value.
I did sessions only in the first year. That was 2009 for me. They were horrible. I attended most that I could that year, not one was worth sitting through. It was shocking. I mean really mind blowing that there were people there that thought that that level of info was valuable. It really opened my eyes to what the audience was and where they had come from (it was mostly people struggling with double clicking on the SW installer icon.) Starting in 2010 I never attend sessions (unless it is a vendor or friends and I'm there for support.) The conference got way, way more valuable after I stopped going to sessions. Then I dropped going to the official "parties" and found that it made another leap forward in value when I had more time to interact with people there, too.
Only session that I attempted to attend just to attend was the Cyclance one last year and that was a train wreck.
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Right on cue... mention that UTMs are pretty much a scam made up by sales people to make margins and... next recommendation is for a UTM by a sales drone.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1508840-internet-filtering
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@scottalanmiller said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
It was my first and last SpiceWorld... several of the sessions were an utter waste of time... had nothing to do with the topic they said they were going to be. I was extremely disappointed in it.
Did someone say Cylance
I actually am using cylance, and I love it... The major session that disappointed me was one put on by solarwinds....
Didnt go to their session though.
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@brianlittlejohn said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
It was my first and last SpiceWorld... several of the sessions were an utter waste of time... had nothing to do with the topic they said they were going to be. I was extremely disappointed in it.
Did someone say Cylance
I actually am using cylance, and I love it... The major session that disappointed me was one put on by solarwinds....
Didnt go to their session though.
I've heard good things about Cylance as a product and have friends working there now. But the session was an epic failure. One of the worst that I've ever seen. It was the perfect storm of horribly over billed as the "one technical session" of the conference, it packed in more people than every other topic combined and then delivered an insulting "how to not go to fake websites for your grandma on the iphone" bit of piss because Cylance had (rightly) figured out that there were almost no technical people at the conference and that their billed topic was going to be way over their heads. The problem, though, was that officially they told no one and didn't change the topic. So everyone that arrived was expecting a highly technical session and was relived and then got the most non-technical drivel ever.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
It was my first and last SpiceWorld... several of the sessions were an utter waste of time... had nothing to do with the topic they said they were going to be. I was extremely disappointed in it.
Did someone say Cylance
I actually am using cylance, and I love it... The major session that disappointed me was one put on by solarwinds....
Didnt go to their session though.
I've heard good things about Cylance as a product and have friends working there now. But the session was an epic failure. One of the worst that I've ever seen. It was the perfect storm of horribly over billed as the "one technical session" of the conference, it packed in more people than every other topic combined and then delivered an insulting "how to not go to fake websites for your grandma on the iphone" bit of piss because Cylance had (rightly) figured out that there were almost no technical people at the conference and that their billed topic was going to be way over their heads. The problem, though, was that officially they told no one and didn't change the topic. So everyone that arrived was expecting a highly technical session and was relived and then got the most non-technical drivel ever.
Before spiceworld, I had gone to a session/sales pitch they did in Dallas that had like 20 or so people in it. It had alot of technical stuff in it.
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@brianlittlejohn said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
It was my first and last SpiceWorld... several of the sessions were an utter waste of time... had nothing to do with the topic they said they were going to be. I was extremely disappointed in it.
Did someone say Cylance
I actually am using cylance, and I love it... The major session that disappointed me was one put on by solarwinds....
Didnt go to their session though.
I've heard good things about Cylance as a product and have friends working there now. But the session was an epic failure. One of the worst that I've ever seen. It was the perfect storm of horribly over billed as the "one technical session" of the conference, it packed in more people than every other topic combined and then delivered an insulting "how to not go to fake websites for your grandma on the iphone" bit of piss because Cylance had (rightly) figured out that there were almost no technical people at the conference and that their billed topic was going to be way over their heads. The problem, though, was that officially they told no one and didn't change the topic. So everyone that arrived was expecting a highly technical session and was relived and then got the most non-technical drivel ever.
Before spiceworld, I had gone to a session/sales pitch they did in Dallas that had like 20 or so people in it. It had alot of technical stuff in it.
If I remember right they dumbed down the SW session after talking to people at their booth.
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@coliver said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
It was my first and last SpiceWorld... several of the sessions were an utter waste of time... had nothing to do with the topic they said they were going to be. I was extremely disappointed in it.
Did someone say Cylance
I actually am using cylance, and I love it... The major session that disappointed me was one put on by solarwinds....
Didnt go to their session though.
I've heard good things about Cylance as a product and have friends working there now. But the session was an epic failure. One of the worst that I've ever seen. It was the perfect storm of horribly over billed as the "one technical session" of the conference, it packed in more people than every other topic combined and then delivered an insulting "how to not go to fake websites for your grandma on the iphone" bit of piss because Cylance had (rightly) figured out that there were almost no technical people at the conference and that their billed topic was going to be way over their heads. The problem, though, was that officially they told no one and didn't change the topic. So everyone that arrived was expecting a highly technical session and was relived and then got the most non-technical drivel ever.
Before spiceworld, I had gone to a session/sales pitch they did in Dallas that had like 20 or so people in it. It had alot of technical stuff in it.
If I remember right they dumbed down the SW session after talking to people at their booth.
That doesn't surprise me.
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@coliver said:
If I remember right they dumbed down the SW session after talking to people at their booth.
Yes, which is why I said "rightly so" that they figured out that the conference was non-technical. The issue was that they billed it as very technical so everyone attending wanted the technical one and the people who wanted something dumbed down were not there. So it was a total disaster and just made Cyclance look like morons because what they called "Ethical Hacking" was all about looking for well known vendors in the Apple App store.
I'm sure that they lost a lot of potential customers that day. Had people I known not gone to work there, I would never have so much as spoken to them again - the degree to which they seemed incompetent was unbelievable.
It still shows a huge lack of common sense, though. They kept up advertising, even after the session had started, saying that they were doing one thing than did another. How they expected that to not go horribly wrong I have no idea.
But that session will have lasting ramifications to SpiceWorld as a conference and honestly, this is a case where Spiceworks should probably have taken legal action. They took the one "saviour" technical course that the conference was depending on for credibility and made it into a complete laughingstock. SW got honestly really screwed on this one. It was partially their fault, I would guess, for having over sold the technical nature of the audience, I've heard them do that a lot, but Cylance's reaction to it was extremely poorly thought out and will be pointed to time and again as to how even the vendors see that as a conference of non-technical "IT buyers" and not one of "IT pros."
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Which is something I've pointed out in the community many times, of course... that's why the culture of "IT driven be sales people" is pervasive there. The community her long been one of primarily non-technical people looking for "vendors to sell them what they can" rather than "technical people learning about solutions." Thatss one of the reasons why vendors love the community, it's not just IT buyers, but very non-technical ones in a mob that are very easily motivated by flashy marketing in a way I've never seen assembled before. So there is value to it, but it is a little embarrassing to be on the "herded sheep" side of the pasture fence.
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Couple years on, the Jentu spam army attempted to comment on this old thread but thankfully someone deleted it. Jentu's spam army is out of control over on SW.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Couple years on, the Jentu spam army attempted to comment on this old thread but thankfully someone deleted it. Jentu's spam army is out of control over on SW.
wow, their website is terrible...
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@NattNatt said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Couple years on, the Jentu spam army attempted to comment on this old thread but thankfully someone deleted it. Jentu's spam army is out of control over on SW.
wow, their website is terrible...
yea it is... 22 second load time
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I didn't have a long load time on their site, but it isn't the most attractive site.
I've seen some pretty bad ones.. anyone remember the old NTG site?
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@brianlittlejohn said:
@NattNatt said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Couple years on, the Jentu spam army attempted to comment on this old thread but thankfully someone deleted it. Jentu's spam army is out of control over on SW.
wow, their website is terrible...
yea it is... 22 second load time
all the gifs...and the scrolling...one scroll is half the freaking screen...damn
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@brianlittlejohn said:
@NattNatt said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Couple years on, the Jentu spam army attempted to comment on this old thread but thankfully someone deleted it. Jentu's spam army is out of control over on SW.
wow, their website is terrible...
yea it is... 22 second load time
We say linking to it from a place with a five MINUTE load time. lol
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