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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
      last edited by Dashrender

      @scottalanmiller said:

      WiFi phones have improved by WiFi is inherently not a great technology for phones. DECT is designed for wireless voice.

      OK, do they making roaming DECT?

      I have two buildings that share a single network, I'd like to be able to take my phone with me from building to building.. sure I could probably do a SIP client on a cell phone, but we don't pay for employee cell phones... and management doesn't want to ask employees to use personal equipment, past experience has shown that employees ask to be compensated when using personal equipment.

      This makes me wonder how BOYD works so well? Probably a different level of employee.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Yes, that's what big companies tend to use.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Yes, that's what big companies tend to use.

          What? a SIP client on cell phones?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            Yes, that's what big companies tend to use.

            What? a SIP client on cell phones?

            I was responding to if there was roaming DECT. Big companies needing roaming wireless tend to use roaming DECT.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              Yes, that's what big companies tend to use.

              What? a SIP client on cell phones?

              I was responding to if there was roaming DECT. Big companies needing roaming wireless tend to use roaming DECT.

              OK time to find one.. thanks.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender http://www.internetvoipphone.co.uk/blog/dect-roaming

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                • ?
                  A Former User @coliver
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                  @coliver said:

                  @Dashrender http://www.internetvoipphone.co.uk/blog/dect-roaming

                  The unit they are trying to sell still only supports 6 SIP Accounts. Remember with DECT the sip connection is made on the basestation not the phone, the phone knows nothing of the SIP Account, so each base station needs the account. There are enterprise ones that will form a Mesh and share data.

                  I do know Lowe's has been switching from DECT to Wifi phones.

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                  • ?
                    A Former User
                    last edited by

                    NEC makes some larger DECT Systems.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @A Former User
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                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                      @coliver said:

                      @Dashrender http://www.internetvoipphone.co.uk/blog/dect-roaming

                      The unit they are trying to sell still only supports 6 SIP Accounts. Remember with DECT the sip connection is made on the basestation not the phone, the phone knows nothing of the SIP Account, so each base station needs the account. There are enterprise ones that will form a Mesh and share data.

                      I do know Lowe's has been switching from DECT to Wifi phones.

                      Yep just thought it was interesting. Is that a limitation on DECT's end with the number of channel's available?

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @A Former User
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                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                        @coliver said:

                        @Dashrender http://www.internetvoipphone.co.uk/blog/dect-roaming

                        I do know Lowe's has been switching from DECT to Wifi phones.

                        I heard about this, are they doing a full roll out or still in the in-store testing phase?

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                        • ?
                          A Former User @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said:

                          @thecreativeone91 said:

                          @coliver said:

                          @Dashrender http://www.internetvoipphone.co.uk/blog/dect-roaming

                          The unit they are trying to sell still only supports 6 SIP Accounts. Remember with DECT the sip connection is made on the basestation not the phone, the phone knows nothing of the SIP Account, so each base station needs the account. There are enterprise ones that will form a Mesh and share data.

                          I do know Lowe's has been switching from DECT to Wifi phones.

                          Yep just thought it was interesting. Is that a limitation on DECT's end with the number of channel's available?

                          It's a limitation of the device. NECs will do 11 per basestation which can all join together in a Mesh

                          http://th.nec.com/en_TH/product/telephony/ipdec/ap300.html
                          http://th.nec.com/en_TH/product/telephony/ipdec/g355.html?

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @A Former User
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                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @Dashrender http://www.internetvoipphone.co.uk/blog/dect-roaming

                            The unit they are trying to sell still only supports 6 SIP Accounts. Remember with DECT the sip connection is made on the basestation not the phone, the phone knows nothing of the SIP Account, so each base station needs the account. There are enterprise ones that will form a Mesh and share data.

                            I do know Lowe's has been switching from DECT to Wifi phones.

                            Yep just thought it was interesting. Is that a limitation on DECT's end with the number of channel's available?

                            It's a limitation of the device. NECs will do 11 per basestation which can all join together in a Mesh

                            http://th.nec.com/en_TH/product/telephony/ipdec/ap300.html
                            http://th.nec.com/en_TH/product/telephony/ipdec/g355.html?

                            Ah ok, thanks for that info.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              I only need one or two phones to be mobile throughout our buildings... so buying two WiFi phones will probably be easier than dealing with DECT base stations all over. In clinic, the phones will stay within 50 m of the base station, so that won't be a problem.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @Dashrender
                                last edited by coliver

                                @Dashrender said:

                                I only need one or two phones to be mobile throughout our buildings... so buying two WiFi phones will probably be easier than dealing with DECT base stations all over. In clinic, the phones will stay within 50 m of the base station, so that won't be a problem.

                                You could just download a VoIP app on your smart phone and connect it to Wifi... it would probably amount to the same thing... just less expensive. I assume you have a smart phone?

                                I enjoy Zoiper.

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User @Dashrender
                                  last edited by A Former User

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  I only need one or two phones to be mobile throughout our buildings... so buying two WiFi phones will probably be easier than dealing with DECT base stations all over. In clinic, the phones will stay within 50 m of the base station, so that won't be a problem.

                                  Yeah for DECT to work well you would need to deploy APs just like you would 802.11 APs.

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                                  • NetworkNerdN
                                    NetworkNerd
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                                    I remember seeing some posts in Spiceworks about Spectralink Wifi phones but have never tried them myself. As @Minion-Queen said earlier, we use a number of the W52P phones, and our users love them.

                                    I will say this as well about wifi phones - if your wireless APs do not allow a seamless handoff, I would think you are going to get audio drops on a call if one is active when walking through an area where the phone is trying to move from AP to AP.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @NetworkNerd
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                                      @NetworkNerd said:

                                      I will say this as well about wifi phones - if your wireless APs do not allow a seamless handoff, I would think you are going to get audio drops on a call if one is active when walking through an area where the phone is trying to move from AP to AP.

                                      This would be tolerable as long as the call stays, but even if the call dropped... being able to take your phone with you and people can find you where ever you are in the building will be handy.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        I only need one or two phones to be mobile throughout our buildings... so buying two WiFi phones will probably be easier than dealing with DECT base stations all over. In clinic, the phones will stay within 50 m of the base station, so that won't be a problem.

                                        You could just download a VoIP app on your smart phone and connect it to Wifi... it would probably amount to the same thing... just less expensive. I assume you have a smart phone?

                                        I enjoy Zoiper.

                                        The problem with that is management and staff don't want to use personal equipment without compensating the equipment owner (staff member in this case). So currently BOYD doesn't work in my environment.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          I only need one or two phones to be mobile throughout our buildings... so buying two WiFi phones will probably be easier than dealing with DECT base stations all over. In clinic, the phones will stay within 50 m of the base station, so that won't be a problem.

                                          You could just download a VoIP app on your smart phone and connect it to Wifi... it would probably amount to the same thing... just less expensive. I assume you have a smart phone?

                                          I enjoy Zoiper.

                                          The problem with that is management and staff don't want to use personal equipment without compensating the equipment owner (staff member in this case). So currently BOYD doesn't work in my environment.

                                          Poor Boyd. You should fire him.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            I only need one or two phones to be mobile throughout our buildings... so buying two WiFi phones will probably be easier than dealing with DECT base stations all over. In clinic, the phones will stay within 50 m of the base station, so that won't be a problem.

                                            You could just download a VoIP app on your smart phone and connect it to Wifi... it would probably amount to the same thing... just less expensive. I assume you have a smart phone?

                                            I enjoy Zoiper.

                                            The problem with that is management and staff don't want to use personal equipment without compensating the equipment owner (staff member in this case). So currently BOYD doesn't work in my environment.

                                            Poor Boyd. You should fire him.

                                            LOL - nice.

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