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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      DECT predates VoIP. It's great for replacing the cabled portion of the phone. It's what house wireless phones have been for decades. It's great for low latency wireless.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by Dashrender

        Thanks Scott.

        Any suggestions on WiFi phones? I saw a post of @scottalanmiller's on SW a few years ago that mentioned that WiFi phones weren't very good. Is that still the case? I'm looking for a phone that I can roam my campus with in addition to ones that stay sorta near the base station.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          WiFi phones have improved by WiFi is inherently not a great technology for phones. DECT is designed for wireless voice.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by Dashrender

            @scottalanmiller said:

            WiFi phones have improved by WiFi is inherently not a great technology for phones. DECT is designed for wireless voice.

            OK, do they making roaming DECT?

            I have two buildings that share a single network, I'd like to be able to take my phone with me from building to building.. sure I could probably do a SIP client on a cell phone, but we don't pay for employee cell phones... and management doesn't want to ask employees to use personal equipment, past experience has shown that employees ask to be compensated when using personal equipment.

            This makes me wonder how BOYD works so well? Probably a different level of employee.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Yes, that's what big companies tend to use.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                Yes, that's what big companies tend to use.

                What? a SIP client on cell phones?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Yes, that's what big companies tend to use.

                  What? a SIP client on cell phones?

                  I was responding to if there was roaming DECT. Big companies needing roaming wireless tend to use roaming DECT.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Yes, that's what big companies tend to use.

                    What? a SIP client on cell phones?

                    I was responding to if there was roaming DECT. Big companies needing roaming wireless tend to use roaming DECT.

                    OK time to find one.. thanks.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender http://www.internetvoipphone.co.uk/blog/dect-roaming

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                      • ?
                        A Former User @coliver
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                        @coliver said:

                        @Dashrender http://www.internetvoipphone.co.uk/blog/dect-roaming

                        The unit they are trying to sell still only supports 6 SIP Accounts. Remember with DECT the sip connection is made on the basestation not the phone, the phone knows nothing of the SIP Account, so each base station needs the account. There are enterprise ones that will form a Mesh and share data.

                        I do know Lowe's has been switching from DECT to Wifi phones.

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                        • ?
                          A Former User
                          last edited by

                          NEC makes some larger DECT Systems.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @A Former User
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                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @Dashrender http://www.internetvoipphone.co.uk/blog/dect-roaming

                            The unit they are trying to sell still only supports 6 SIP Accounts. Remember with DECT the sip connection is made on the basestation not the phone, the phone knows nothing of the SIP Account, so each base station needs the account. There are enterprise ones that will form a Mesh and share data.

                            I do know Lowe's has been switching from DECT to Wifi phones.

                            Yep just thought it was interesting. Is that a limitation on DECT's end with the number of channel's available?

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @A Former User
                              last edited by

                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @Dashrender http://www.internetvoipphone.co.uk/blog/dect-roaming

                              I do know Lowe's has been switching from DECT to Wifi phones.

                              I heard about this, are they doing a full roll out or still in the in-store testing phase?

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                              • ?
                                A Former User @coliver
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                                @coliver said:

                                @thecreativeone91 said:

                                @coliver said:

                                @Dashrender http://www.internetvoipphone.co.uk/blog/dect-roaming

                                The unit they are trying to sell still only supports 6 SIP Accounts. Remember with DECT the sip connection is made on the basestation not the phone, the phone knows nothing of the SIP Account, so each base station needs the account. There are enterprise ones that will form a Mesh and share data.

                                I do know Lowe's has been switching from DECT to Wifi phones.

                                Yep just thought it was interesting. Is that a limitation on DECT's end with the number of channel's available?

                                It's a limitation of the device. NECs will do 11 per basestation which can all join together in a Mesh

                                http://th.nec.com/en_TH/product/telephony/ipdec/ap300.html
                                http://th.nec.com/en_TH/product/telephony/ipdec/g355.html?

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @A Former User
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                                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @Dashrender http://www.internetvoipphone.co.uk/blog/dect-roaming

                                  The unit they are trying to sell still only supports 6 SIP Accounts. Remember with DECT the sip connection is made on the basestation not the phone, the phone knows nothing of the SIP Account, so each base station needs the account. There are enterprise ones that will form a Mesh and share data.

                                  I do know Lowe's has been switching from DECT to Wifi phones.

                                  Yep just thought it was interesting. Is that a limitation on DECT's end with the number of channel's available?

                                  It's a limitation of the device. NECs will do 11 per basestation which can all join together in a Mesh

                                  http://th.nec.com/en_TH/product/telephony/ipdec/ap300.html
                                  http://th.nec.com/en_TH/product/telephony/ipdec/g355.html?

                                  Ah ok, thanks for that info.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    I only need one or two phones to be mobile throughout our buildings... so buying two WiFi phones will probably be easier than dealing with DECT base stations all over. In clinic, the phones will stay within 50 m of the base station, so that won't be a problem.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @Dashrender
                                      last edited by coliver

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      I only need one or two phones to be mobile throughout our buildings... so buying two WiFi phones will probably be easier than dealing with DECT base stations all over. In clinic, the phones will stay within 50 m of the base station, so that won't be a problem.

                                      You could just download a VoIP app on your smart phone and connect it to Wifi... it would probably amount to the same thing... just less expensive. I assume you have a smart phone?

                                      I enjoy Zoiper.

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                                      • ?
                                        A Former User @Dashrender
                                        last edited by A Former User

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        I only need one or two phones to be mobile throughout our buildings... so buying two WiFi phones will probably be easier than dealing with DECT base stations all over. In clinic, the phones will stay within 50 m of the base station, so that won't be a problem.

                                        Yeah for DECT to work well you would need to deploy APs just like you would 802.11 APs.

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                                        • NetworkNerdN
                                          NetworkNerd
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                                          I remember seeing some posts in Spiceworks about Spectralink Wifi phones but have never tried them myself. As @Minion-Queen said earlier, we use a number of the W52P phones, and our users love them.

                                          I will say this as well about wifi phones - if your wireless APs do not allow a seamless handoff, I would think you are going to get audio drops on a call if one is active when walking through an area where the phone is trying to move from AP to AP.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @NetworkNerd
                                            last edited by

                                            @NetworkNerd said:

                                            I will say this as well about wifi phones - if your wireless APs do not allow a seamless handoff, I would think you are going to get audio drops on a call if one is active when walking through an area where the phone is trying to move from AP to AP.

                                            This would be tolerable as long as the call stays, but even if the call dropped... being able to take your phone with you and people can find you where ever you are in the building will be handy.

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