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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by

      Current situaiton:
      I have a new server 2012 that was joined to the old SBS2008 domain.
      The new server was made a domain controller and gracefully transferred the FSMO roles.
      DHCP, printer, shares, etc. were manually recreated.
      I installed certificate services on the new DC and imported the old certificate (because I had exported it).
      Virtual Machine Connection will not connect because it cannot find a valid CA.

      caerror

      Hyper-V manager itself works just fine.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
        last edited by JaredBusch

        Would it be best to remove the CA, purge active directory and then add a new CA?

        Will I end up with client access issues?

        The old SBS server is offline and I would prefer to keep it that way. All other services are working.

        Tomorrow, the first thing I will do when I arrive on site is dump the current RAID array on the old server so the old DC will at that point be 100% gone with no valid backups.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          Did you fully migrate away from SBS?

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Dashrender
            last edited by

            To make things even more fun, the original certificate expired today.

            fme

            so I right clicked and reissued.

            damnit

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              Did you fully migrate away from SBS?

              @JaredBusch said:

              The new server was made a domain controller and gracefully transferred the FSMO roles.

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                A Former User @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @JaredBusch said:

                Will I end up with client access issues?

                Were any Certs used for anything like 802.1x etc.? AD does not use Certs or the CA for most authentication so normal domain commuication should not be affect with clients by the lack of a CA.

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                • GregoryHallG
                  GregoryHall
                  last edited by

                  Did you update GPO to reflect the new server info?
                  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc947849(v=ws.10).aspx

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    Did you fully migrate away from SBS?

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    The new server was made a domain controller and gracefully transferred the FSMO roles.

                    This does not mean a full migration.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @A Former User
                      last edited by

                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                      @JaredBusch said:

                      Will I end up with client access issues?

                      Were any Certs used for anything like 802.1x etc.? AD does not use Certs or the CA for most authentication so normal domain commuication should not be affect with clients by the lack of a CA.

                      This was an SBS install, so the original CA was setup as part of that default install.
                      There is nothing special on the network for authentication that needs a cert.

                      Until I had a problem with the VMC, I did not even have the CA installed on the new DC.

                      I installed the CA yesterday as noted above and still had the problem. I booted the SBS server back up and VMC worked again. I shut it back down in order to resolve this.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        This does not mean a full migration.

                        Actually, it pretty much does, the SBS server will only run for 21 days after the FSMO roles have migrated, so that should always be the last step other than demoting itself.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @GregoryHall
                          last edited by

                          @GregoryHall said:

                          Did you update GPO to reflect the new server info?
                          https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc947849(v=ws.10).aspx

                          No, checking this out now, thanks.

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                          • GregoryHallG
                            GregoryHall @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd807084.aspx

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                              A Former User @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said:

                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              @JaredBusch said:

                              Will I end up with client access issues?

                              Were any Certs used for anything like 802.1x etc.? AD does not use Certs or the CA for most authentication so normal domain commuication should not be affect with clients by the lack of a CA.

                              This was an SBS install, so the original CA was setup as part of that default install.
                              There is nothing special on the network for authentication that needs a cert.

                              Until I had a problem with the VMC, I did not even have the CA installed on the new DC.

                              I installed the CA yesterday as noted above and still had the problem. I booted the SBS server back up and VMC worked again. I shut it back down in order to resolve this.

                              It sounds like you have two root CA's and the Certs are still coming from the old CA.

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                                A Former User @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                This does not mean a full migration.

                                Actually, it pretty much does, the SBS server will only run for 21 days after the FSMO roles have migrated, so that should always be the last step other than demoting itself.

                                Well you have 21 days. but the BP is to uninstall Exchange from SBS, demote the SBS and then unjoin it from the domain before the 21 days are up.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @GregoryHall
                                  last edited by

                                  @GregoryHall said:

                                  @JaredBusch https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd807084.aspx

                                  That is easy now that I know I missed the step.

                                  The hard part now is finding which SBS policy pushed it out and updating it.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @A Former User
                                    last edited by

                                    @thecreativeone91 said:

                                    Well you have 21 days. but the BP is to uninstall Exchange from SBS, demote the SBS and then unjoin it from the domain before the 21 days are up.

                                    I have until I arrive tomorrow to complete the demote and unjoin.

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                                    • GregoryHallG
                                      GregoryHall @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch http://www.bursky.net/index.php/2012/02/disable-sbs-migration-grace-period-expiration/
                                      Disable the grace period check it will buy you more time if needed.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @GregoryHall
                                        last edited by JaredBusch

                                        @GregoryHall said:

                                        @JaredBusch http://www.bursky.net/index.php/2012/02/disable-sbs-migration-grace-period-expiration/
                                        Disable the grace period check it will buy you more time if needed.

                                        No, the hardware is failed. The grace period is not the problem.

                                        But from the looks of this I can fix the CA regardless of the old DC being online.

                                        The only thing this impacts is me being able to open a console from the Hyper-v manager.

                                        Still want it fixed before tomorrow though..

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                                          A Former User @GregoryHall
                                          last edited by

                                          @GregoryHall said:

                                          @JaredBusch http://www.bursky.net/index.php/2012/02/disable-sbs-migration-grace-period-expiration/
                                          Disable the grace period check it will buy you more time if needed.

                                          That doesn't work on SBS 2008 as there is no sbscrexe.exe and the grace period works differently.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @A Former User
                                            last edited by

                                            Or I can update the DNS settings on the Hyper-V server to point to the new DC.

                                            Then everything starts working like magic.

                                            #simplethings

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