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      A Former User @coliver
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      @coliver said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Carnival-Boy said:

      Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

      RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.

      Which RDP solution do you use on Linux? I have found them to be flaky and unstable on my Mint installation, I've tried a couple... it may be that it is an older laptop that doesn't handle a lot though.

      What does it do?

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        coliver @A Former User
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        @thecreativeone91 said:

        @coliver said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Carnival-Boy said:

        Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

        RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.

        Which RDP solution do you use on Linux? I have found them to be flaky and unstable on my Mint installation, I've tried a couple... it may be that it is an older laptop that doesn't handle a lot though.

        What does it do?

        Just general wonkiness. Not displaying correctly, dropping connections, etc. Was on a 1Gb switch with no packet loss so it was just really odd. I will try it again tonight to see if that continues.

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          Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Carnival-Boy said:

          Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

          RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.

          Not according to this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/rds/archive/2013/12/11/remote-desktop-protocol-licensing-available-for-rdp-8-0.aspx

          Microsoft requires RDP implementers to obtain a patent license for RDP

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            A Former User @Carnival Boy
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            @Carnival-Boy said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Carnival-Boy said:

            Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

            RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.

            Not according to this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/rds/archive/2013/12/11/remote-desktop-protocol-licensing-available-for-rdp-8-0.aspx

            Microsoft requires RDP implementers to obtain a patent license for RDP

            That's for Microsoft RDP 8. Not just RDP. Notice they used the term 'Microsoft RDP' everytime. Standard rdp is open. The license would be to use microsoft only features like RemoteFX.

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              Carnival Boy @A Former User
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              @thecreativeone91 said:

              Notice they used the term 'Microsoft RDP' everytime.

              I can't see them use that term anywhere on that page? I didn't know there was a non-Microsoft RDP. Wikipedia just has an entry for RDP and it says it's proprietary protocol.

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                scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                @Carnival-Boy said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Carnival-Boy said:

                Why are there so few? Do developers have to pay a licence fee to use Microsoft RDP?

                RDP is an open protocol. Anyone can use it anytime. There are fully open source implementations available. On Linux in general, RDP clients are mature and robust.

                Not according to this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/rds/archive/2013/12/11/remote-desktop-protocol-licensing-available-for-rdp-8-0.aspx

                Microsoft requires RDP implementers to obtain a patent license for RDP

                To use THEIR RDP. Protocols cannot be patented in the US. Just because they obtained a patent doesn't mean that they can use it. Their implementation is protected, but not the protocol itself.

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                  A Former User
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                  This is the standard open specification for basic use. It does not include the fancy rdp features like remotefx.
                  https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc240445.aspx

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                    Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Just because they obtained a patent doesn't mean that they can use it. Their implementation is protected, but not the protocol itself.

                    Say what?

                    Let me put it another way - if I want to write and publish a client that will connect to a standard Windows desktop using RDP, do I need to obtain a patent licence from Microsoft (as they are saying I do) or don't I?

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                      A Former User @Carnival Boy
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                      @Carnival-Boy said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Just because they obtained a patent doesn't mean that they can use it. Their implementation is protected, but not the protocol itself.

                      Say what?

                      Let me put it another way - if I want to write and publish a client that will connect to a standard Windows desktop using RDP, do I need to obtain a patent licence from Microsoft (as they are saying I do) or don't I?

                      You Dont. And they aren't saying you do. You only do if you want to implement Microsoft RDP. And specificly in this case it was Microsoft RDP 8.

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                        Carnival Boy
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                        OK. So how do I connect to a Windows desktop using non-Microsoft RDP?

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                          scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                          @Carnival-Boy said:

                          Let me put it another way - if I want to write and publish a client that will connect to a standard Windows desktop using RDP, do I need to obtain a patent licence from Microsoft (as they are saying I do) or don't I?

                          No, you do not. There are laws that protect the usage of an API / protocol. Microsoft doesn't have to give you the details, but they can't stop you talking the language either.

                          It would be the same as making a patent on English and demanding anyone who wants to speak it pay for a license to your tongue movements, even if they are just mimicking the sounds.

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                            scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                            @Carnival-Boy said:

                            OK. So how do I connect to a Windows desktop using non-Microsoft RDP?

                            It's a protocol. You just speak the language.

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                              Carnival Boy
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                              OK. Cool. I still don't have a free Chromebook RDP client, mind.

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                                A Former User
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                                Its the same as VNC there is the standard open version. Then there are portierairy ones using extra features. Any vnc client should connect to it but, will not have the extra proritetarty features.

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                                  scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                  @Carnival-Boy said:

                                  OK. Cool. I still don't have a free Chromebook RDP client, mind.

                                  Right free being key. Okay, will keep looking.

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                                    Carnival Boy
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                                    It doesn't have to be free. It has to be able to run full screen though.

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                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Is lacking full screen what is wrong with this one?

                                      https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chrome-rdp-for-google-clo/mpbbnannobiobpnfblimoapbephgifkm?hl=en-US

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                                        Carnival Boy
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                                        Yes.

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                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Gotcha. Not sure if there is a full screen option. It doesn't do full screen even if you make the browser full screen?

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                                            Carnival Boy
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                                            The latest version doesn't run in the browser. Older versions did. That seems to be a complaint amongst a lot of long-term users.

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