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    • Reid CooperR
      Reid Cooper
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      Any status on the failover? Why did one carrier bring down the entire business?

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        A Former User @Reid Cooper
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        @Reid-Cooper said:

        Any status on the failover? Why did one carrier bring down the entire business?

        It's still down http://mangolassi.it/topic/4116/cloudatcost-currently-offline/50?page=3

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        • Reid CooperR
          Reid Cooper
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          I was wondering about feedback on why a single ISP failure took down the entire cloud rather than failing over to another ISP. I would expect a few seconds disruption and slower performance, not an outage from just Rogers being offline.

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          • scottalanmillerS
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            I see the SBC Global link has started responding again, sounds like that is the start of repairs getting done.

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              A Former User @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              I see the SBC Global link has started responding again, sounds like that is the start of repairs getting done.

              With this much wide spread outage I'm wondering if it was an attack on the backbones rather than someone cutting fiber

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                @thecreativeone91 said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                I see the SBC Global link has started responding again, sounds like that is the start of repairs getting done.

                With this much wide spread outage I'm wondering if it was an attack on the backbones rather than someone cutting fiber

                That certainly seems possible.

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                • mlnewsM
                  mlnews
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                  Rogers is stating that the issues are power related.

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                  • mlnewsM
                    mlnews
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                    But it appears that the outage is spreading east. Maybe the outages are not related?

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                    • ?
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                      Dunno, I'd be surprised if they didn't have both UPS and large Natural Gas (connected to underground lines so little limit on run time) Generators on the backbone.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                        Dunno, I'd be surprised if they didn't have both UPS and large Natural Gas Generators on the backbone.

                        One would sure hope. Although if they had an issue post-UPS, like a short or a fire, it could cause a power-based outage even with those things in place. But that would be pretty dramatic.

                        But I agree, an extended outage like this suggests that this is a cover up and not what actually happened.

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                        • mlnewsM
                          mlnews @Reid Cooper
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                          @Reid-Cooper said:

                          I was wondering about feedback on why a single ISP failure took down the entire cloud rather than failing over to another ISP. I would expect a few seconds disruption and slower performance, not an outage from just Rogers being offline.

                          Looks as though they tried to go to a backup this morning. No updates in a very long time.

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                            C@C.PNG

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                            • PSX_DefectorP
                              PSX_Defector @A Former User
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                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              I see the SBC Global link has started responding again, sounds like that is the start of repairs getting done.

                              With this much wide spread outage I'm wondering if it was an attack on the backbones rather than someone cutting fiber

                              Probably what happened was that the BGP route to C@C was dropped, hence the rest of the network gave up on trying to get it to the destination. This happens when a published route path goes down, e.g. fiber cut into the locale. That's why we were seeing it drop within our own ISP's network, because there was no published route to them. Once the circuit was back up, the BGP routing was fixed and it sent the traffic onto the backbones.

                              Although I'm seeing the same thing right now on TWC, haven't checked AT&T.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                @thecreativeone91 How the heck could Rogers be down all freaking day and only now get around to effing dispatching someone?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @PSX_Defector
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                                  @PSX_Defector said:

                                  Although I'm seeing the same thing right now on TWC, haven't checked AT&T.

                                  On SBC / AT&T here.

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                                    A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @thecreativeone91 How the heck could Rogers be down all freaking day and only now get around to effing dispatching someone?

                                    Yeah it just doesn't make sense if it was only a hardware issue they would have fixed it long ago. Heck they probably have alerts on it and know before anyone else does that it's down.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @thecreativeone91 How the heck could Rogers be down all freaking day and only now get around to effing dispatching someone?

                                      Yeah it just doesn't make sense if it was only a hardware issue they would have fixed it long ago. Heck they probably have alerts on it and know before anyone else does that it's down.

                                      One would sure hope.

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                                        PSX_Defector @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @PSX_Defector said:

                                        Although I'm seeing the same thing right now on TWC, haven't checked AT&T.

                                        On SBC / AT&T here.

                                        There's actually two different routes with them. There's ATTIS, which is usually the DSL pipes and some hi-cap, then there is the U-Verse platform which takes a different route. As far as I can see, it's a BGP route issue since it affects multiple providers.

                                        I see this from TWC:

                                        C:\Users\v436525>tracert jump.ntg.co

                                        Tracing route to jump.ntg.co [168.235.144.189]
                                        over a maximum of 30 hops:

                                        1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms agrer003-ip002001.noa.vmotion.tmrk.eu [172.16.2.
                                        1]
                                        2 15 ms 26 ms 17 ms cpe-76-186-176-1.tx.res.rr.com [76.186.176.1]
                                        3 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms tge7-2.allntx3901h.texas.rr.com [24.164.210.241]

                                        4 14 ms 15 ms 15 ms tge0-8-0-7.plantxmp01r.texas.rr.com [24.175.37.2
                                        12]
                                        5 13 ms 15 ms 15 ms agg27.crtntxjt01r.texas.rr.com [24.175.36.177]
                                        6 * * * Request timed out.

                                        My route from AT&T don't want to come through on pfSense right now. I can certainly generate it once I get off online and just hard drop the AT&T line. Still technically have a few minutes to go at the big red V. Although I am super drunk right now.

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                                          A Former User
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                                          People are now reporting Cell Phone outages..

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                                            A Former User
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                                            http://www.akamai.com/html/technology/dataviz1.html

                                            Interesting. They are reporting 53% above average attack traffic in North America today.. No idea of the relevance.

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