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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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      @EddieJennings said in Resume Update:

      @scottalanmiller said in Resume Update:

      @EddieJennings said in Resume Update:

      I'd ask about the title change, and would be expecting an explanation likely describing a promotion.

      You wouldn't, no one ever does. Because it's all meaningless internal politics and has nothing to do with your role or job.

      I have because when I see it I'm curious, but on the whole, I agree about it being meaningless. When I'm on a panel interviewing folks I'm far more interested in if they know what their talking about concerning $subjectMatter.

      More importantly is how it comes across - like stating something that obviously requires someone to ask the follow up. It feels like "drama". Like obviously it was put there to elicit and eye roll and "ok... what did you mean by this".

      Like when my kids say something that makes no sense and wait for you to ask what they mean.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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        @EddieJennings said in Resume Update:

        @scottalanmiller said in Resume Update:

        and it's the pressure, not the effort, that makes it matter.

        I can see that perspective. Eventually :trade_mark: this will be done in production as well.

        Right, and then it becomes a resume line item 😉

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        • EddieJenningsE
          EddieJennings
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          Working on the next draft right now. Something I'm currently considering are listing expired certs.

          On one hand an expired cert is still an earned cert, and the skills learned may still be useful for whatever position you seek. On the other hand if the expired cert doesn't have any direct relevance to the position you seek (example, I have my CCNA and Network+ on the resume, but I'm targeting positions within systems administration), ought it take space on a resume.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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            @EddieJennings said in Resume Update:

            Something I'm currently considering are listing expired certs.

            If you are listing any certs, list them. Don't consider if something is or isn't expired AT ALL. It's a ridiculous concept that means nothing to an employer.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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              @EddieJennings said in Resume Update:

              On one hand an expired cert is still an earned cert

              That's really the only hand here.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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                @EddieJennings said in Resume Update:

                On the other hand if the expired cert doesn't have any direct relevance to the position you seek (example, I have my CCNA and Network+ on the resume, but I'm targeting positions within systems administration), ought it take space on a resume.

                That's not really a good way to look at it. While those aren't system admin roles, they are full of general IT knowledge that system admins need to know. You list three college degrees that don't even begin to show the range of relevance as the Network+. Why show the degrees, but not the Net+? If you showed the Net+ but not the degrees, that would make way more sense.

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                • EddieJenningsE
                  EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Resume Update:

                  @EddieJennings said in Resume Update:

                  On the other hand if the expired cert doesn't have any direct relevance to the position you seek (example, I have my CCNA and Network+ on the resume, but I'm targeting positions within systems administration), ought it take space on a resume.

                  That's not really a good way to look at it. While those aren't system admin roles, they are full of general IT knowledge that system admins need to know. You list three college degrees that don't even begin to show the range of relevance as the Network+. Why show the degrees, but not the Net+? If you showed the Net+ but not the degrees, that would make way more sense.

                  True. Upon further thinking the other hand really isn't a valid hand.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    If you are worried about expiration of a cert, don't. No one presents their certs as current, and no one cares if they are.

                    You earned a Net+, put the date that you earned it. Really, it's keeping it current that's the less impressive. Yours expired because you moved on, you aren't a newbie anymore. Someone who keeps updating an old, low level cert implies that they've not moved on. In IT, you want those certs to expire because you should be on to the next level or next topic. Onward and upward, not treading water.

                    With over 150 certs, imagine the time and cost I'd put in to purely recertifying things I already know and have proven over and over again, just to keep up the ones that I already earned rather than learning new things or, you know, just working!

                    The expiring cert concept makes no sense and effectively just flags a certification authority as seeing themselves as irrelevant.

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                    • EddieJenningsE
                      EddieJennings
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                      Not much has changed for draft 3.

                      I've considered adding a summary statement, but declined for this draft.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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                        @EddieJennings said in Resume Update:

                        I've considered adding a summary statement, but declined for this draft.

                        I generally don't. If you do, keep it super short "Systems Focused IT Practitioner Seeking Career Growth, Systems-focused Role" or something that just says who you are and what you want. Nothing more. But it can backfire, if you describe yourself in a way that they don't like, or you describe a role that they don't realize matches (or doesn't match) what you say, you can lose something you otherwise would have had.

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ @EddieJennings
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                          @EddieJennings said in Resume Update:

                          Not much has changed for draft 3.

                          I've considered adding a summary statement, but declined for this draft.

                          I think a summary is important for a few reasons:

                          1. You get a change to provide the narrative and tell the reader how you want your resume read. @scottalanmiller sees this is a negative, but I see this as a positive. If their position doesn't align with your summary, do you even want the position anyway? I also believe this area is even more important if you are changing roles. Because you will get the chance her to show your new direction

                          2. People reviewing resumes will appreciate it, because it is a 10 second spiel where you give a quick overview of yourself. It is a time saver for them.

                          3. Do the simple math for your interviewer. Add up your experience in years and certifications in numbers. I would say something like 10+ years in system administration, consulting, and engineering . If I see a statement like that right off the bat, you have 10 years experience and that pops right into my head.

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                          • EddieJenningsE
                            EddieJennings @IRJ
                            last edited by EddieJennings

                            @IRJ said in Resume Update:

                            1. People reviewing resumes will appreciate it, because it is a 10 second spiel where you give a quick overview of yourself. It is a time saver for them.

                            This is the greatest potential benefit I see from having the summary statement. Though many of these I've seen on the resumes that have come by me read as thoughtless filler.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                              @IRJ said in Resume Update:

                              @scottalanmiller sees this is a negative, but I see this as a positive.

                              Not always a negative, but it's a risk. For example, you see a position that you are perfect for and you say so. They don't know what to call the position and perceive the same job as a different title and rule you out because you knew too much.

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                              • IRJI
                                IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Resume Update:

                                @IRJ said in Resume Update:

                                @scottalanmiller sees this is a negative, but I see this as a positive.

                                Not always a negative, but it's a risk. For example, you see a position that you are perfect for and you say so. They don't know what to call the position and perceive the same job as a different title and rule you out because you knew too much.

                                I don't put my position. I put my experience. Everything is pretty general and would not disqualify me for any position.

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                                • EddieJenningsE
                                  EddieJennings @IRJ
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                                  @IRJ said in Resume Update:

                                  I don't put my position. I put my experience. Everything is pretty general and would not disqualify me for any position.

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                                  After work, I'll do some drafting of either bullets like that or a single sentence and see which seems better.

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                                  • EddieJenningsE
                                    EddieJennings
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                                    With Draft 4, which I think is close to the final draft, I chose a one sentence statement to replace the horizontal row.

                                    Any more text (unless I kill some of the white space, which I hesitate to do for readability), and this spills into a second page. While second pages aren't the end of the world, I don't yet have enough substance to make good use of it.

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ @EddieJennings
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                                      @EddieJennings said in Resume Update:

                                      With Draft 4, which I think is close to the final draft, I chose a one sentence statement to replace the horizontal row.

                                      Any more text (unless I kill some of the white space, which I hesitate to do for readability), and this spills into a second page. While second pages aren't the end of the world, I don't yet have enough substance to make good use of it.

                                      I really like it. The only thing I'd say is your summary statement looks out of place. I think it needs a heading or something. Other than that it looks really clean

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                                      • EddieJenningsE
                                        EddieJennings @IRJ
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                                        @IRJ said in Resume Update:

                                        @EddieJennings said in Resume Update:

                                        With Draft 4, which I think is close to the final draft, I chose a one sentence statement to replace the horizontal row.

                                        Any more text (unless I kill some of the white space, which I hesitate to do for readability), and this spills into a second page. While second pages aren't the end of the world, I don't yet have enough substance to make good use of it.

                                        I really like it. The only thing I'd say is your summary statement looks out of place. I think it needs a heading or something. Other than that it looks really clean

                                        Thanks. That's something I'm considering. To give it a heading, I'd need to remove some bullets from the experience section. If I did, these three are currently on the chopping block.

                                        Managed integration between Active Directory and HR data sources
                                        Configured load balancing and TLS offloading for line of business application servers
                                        Served as escalation point for L1 / L2 technicians.

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                                        • IRJI
                                          IRJ @EddieJennings
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                                          @EddieJennings said in Resume Update:

                                          @IRJ said in Resume Update:

                                          @EddieJennings said in Resume Update:

                                          With Draft 4, which I think is close to the final draft, I chose a one sentence statement to replace the horizontal row.

                                          Any more text (unless I kill some of the white space, which I hesitate to do for readability), and this spills into a second page. While second pages aren't the end of the world, I don't yet have enough substance to make good use of it.

                                          I really like it. The only thing I'd say is your summary statement looks out of place. I think it needs a heading or something. Other than that it looks really clean

                                          Thanks. That's something I'm considering. To give it a heading, I'd need to remove some bullets from the experience section. If I did, these three are currently on the chopping block.

                                          Managed integration between Active Directory and HR data sources
                                          Configured load balancing and TLS offloading for line of business application servers
                                          Served as escalation point for L1 / L2 technicians.

                                          It's an easy choice for me. Get rid of the training team members bullet point

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                                          • IRJI
                                            IRJ
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                                            Also you don't have any Linux test systems or anything in your current role? If you did you might move those to front of skills and windows in the back. Keep the other skills in between.

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