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    • black3dynamiteB
      black3dynamite
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      https://www.fox13now.com/news/coronavirus/local-coronavirus-news/utahs-governor-to-unveil-increased-monitoring-for-covid-19-from-inbound-travel

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

        There is no federal restriction on testing.

        That's an assumption on your part. Do you know that that is true? We've been told otherwise. If I stated that, you'd demand that I prove it.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

          That's a false assumption on your part.

          at least until very recently, we have articles stating that the fed was controlling the tests...

          https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/coronavirus-testing-delays-caused-red-tape-bureaucracy-scorn-private-companies-ncna1162476

          Now I know you'll say any source I cite isn't the truth. But I'm asking you to provide evidence that your claim that the fed isn't putting limits on testing since you claim that my assumption that the news articles is true, are false. The onus is on you.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cdc-created-covid-19-testing-criteria-that-masked-the-numbers-contracting-the-coronavirus-in-us-2020-03-23

            There is news that testing was beginning to be allowed without complete federal oversight about two weeks ago... but only that private labs were allowed to start to get involved. I've yet seen a report that open testing is allowed without any federal caps. All reports have agreed all along, and all observation agrees, that the fed had provided limits. Nothing has disputed this. If those caps have been relaxed, unless they are lifted, they are still caps. And the only reports that I can find is that they were easing the limits, not allowing completely open testing.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

              That's a false assumption on your part.

              at least until very recently, we have articles stating that the fed was controlling the tests...

              https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/coronavirus-testing-delays-caused-red-tape-bureaucracy-scorn-private-companies-ncna1162476

              Now I know you'll say any source I cite isn't the truth. But I'm asking you to provide evidence that your claim that the fed isn't putting limits on testing since you claim that my assumption that the news articles is true, are false. The onus is on you.

              That article does not say the the federal government was controlling testing.

              That article is clearly related to FDA approval, for new medical processes, that were always on place.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
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                This is yesterday’s news, I am not going to go dig up the news from weeks ago that state the same.

                https://www.chicagobusiness.com/greg-hinz-politics/illinois-virus-testing-rising-slower-expected

                It clearly states how Illinois testing capacity is limited not by the federal government, but by the number of tests that they have the equipment for. And not all of that equipment comes from the federal government.

                This is no different that what Utah is doing as noted in the article above.

                Could the US government bureaucracies moved faster or allowed foreign tests to be imported? Sure. But that is not what this disagreement is about.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  That's a false assumption on your part.

                  at least until very recently, we have articles stating that the fed was controlling the tests...

                  https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/coronavirus-testing-delays-caused-red-tape-bureaucracy-scorn-private-companies-ncna1162476

                  Now I know you'll say any source I cite isn't the truth. But I'm asking you to provide evidence that your claim that the fed isn't putting limits on testing since you claim that my assumption that the news articles is true, are false. The onus is on you.

                  you can't prove a negative.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cdc-created-covid-19-testing-criteria-that-masked-the-numbers-contracting-the-coronavirus-in-us-2020-03-23

                    There is news that testing was beginning to be allowed without complete federal oversight about two weeks ago... but only that private labs were allowed to start to get involved. I've yet seen a report that open testing is allowed without any federal caps. All reports have agreed all along, and all observation agrees, that the fed had provided limits. Nothing has disputed this. If those caps have been relaxed, unless they are lifted, they are still caps. And the only reports that I can find is that they were easing the limits, not allowing completely open testing.

                    One makes you wonder if they don't want testing, because they don't want to show that many many more people are infected and are asymptomatic - showing that the lockdown is really doing little to nothing. Because while the lockdown is bad - it's giving the government control, which they love.

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                    • GreyG
                      Grey
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                      https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/08/829955099/federal-support-for-coronavirus-testing-sites-end-as-peak-nears?

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                      • mlnewsM
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                        Coronavirus: Worst economic crisis since 1930s depression, IMF says

                        The coronavirus pandemic will turn global economic growth "sharply negative" this year, the head of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) has warned.
                        Kristalina Georgieva said the world faced the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression of the 1930s. She forecast that 2021 would only see a partial recovery. Lockdowns imposed by governments have forced many companies to close and lay off staff. Earlier this week, a UN study said 81% of the world's workforce of 3.3 billion people had had their place of work fully or partly closed because of the outbreak.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @Grey
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                          @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/08/829955099/federal-support-for-coronavirus-testing-sites-end-as-peak-nears?

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                          How is this not anything but a near total failure - 5K of 825K people, not even 1%, any data gathered by this would be borderline pointless, the sample size really isn't large enough.

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                          • black3dynamiteB
                            black3dynamite
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                            https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/have-australia-and-new-zealand-stopped-covid-19-in-its-tracks/ar-BB12oTjQ

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/08/829955099/federal-support-for-coronavirus-testing-sites-end-as-peak-nears?

                              a79ba8b1-f7ba-48f7-9188-a082981643f5-image.png

                              How is this not anything but a near total failure - 5K of 825K people, not even 1%, any data gathered by this would be borderline pointless, the sample size really isn't large enough.

                              Same as here in Dallas. Two facilities, each that can do 250 a day, in a metro area just a hair bigger than Philly. The sample size is insanely small, means nothing. We'd get the same results if 10,000 or 5,000,000 were infected.

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                              • black3dynamiteB
                                black3dynamite
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                                Salt Lake County extends 'Stay Safe, Stay Home' order until May 1
                                https://kutv.com/news/local/salt-lake-county-stay-at-home-order-extended-until-may-1

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @black3dynamite
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                                  @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  Salt Lake County extends 'Stay Safe, Stay Home' order until May 1
                                  https://kutv.com/news/local/salt-lake-county-stay-at-home-order-extended-until-may-1

                                  I've been seeing this for hours now - hasn't this already been recommended federally for a week?

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                                  • black3dynamiteB
                                    black3dynamite @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    Salt Lake County extends 'Stay Safe, Stay Home' order until May 1
                                    https://kutv.com/news/local/salt-lake-county-stay-at-home-order-extended-until-may-1

                                    I've been seeing this for hours now - hasn't this already been recommended federally for a week?

                                    I don't know. But the Salt Lake County lab-confirmed cases is higher compare the other counties. So I guess each county is handling it their own way.

                                    https://coronavirus.utah.gov/case-counts/
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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                                      @black3dynamite doesn't that county have like half the state population in it, though?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @black3dynamite doesn't that county have like half the state population in it, though?

                                        I was wondering something similar. Of course it has the most cases - it has the most people.

                                        In Nebraska, the same can be said about Douglas and Sarpy counties, we have more than half the state's population.

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                                        • black3dynamiteB
                                          black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @black3dynamite doesn't that county have like half the state population in it, though?

                                          Yes!

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                                          • black3dynamiteB
                                            black3dynamite
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                                            https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29012886/coronavirus-social-distancing-change-way-attend-sports

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