Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020
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Looks like Microsoft is planning on retiring their well known certs. What is everyone's thoughts on this? Would this affect the market for individuals who are looking at getting into Windows System admins roles? Looks like Microsoft is forcing individuals to study Azure. I personally made a decision a few weeks ago to start putting my studying into the RHCSA as opposed to the MCSA. For one, Linux seems to be more fun as I've been playing with it in my home lab, and two, there is not that many people who know Linux. Glad I made that decision.
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Perhaps Microsoft sees the writing on the wall and is just letting everyone prep for the Linux world?
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From the looks of it, Microsoft isn't seeing their career path as being very serious anymore. Replacing an MCSE with "learning Teams"? WTF
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
From the looks of it, Microsoft isn't seeing their career path as being very serious anymore. Replacing an MCSE with "learning Teams"? WTF
Everything is cloud on Microsoft's certification tracts now. You can't be Windows Server certified anymore
. It's been a phase out, that's been happening for a couple of years and is no surprise -
Certifications by Microsoft are just a way of having getting professionals to push their products. Subscription based products are much more profitable then Windows Server.
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
Perhaps Microsoft sees the writing on the wall and is just letting everyone prep for the Linux world?
I sit next to this older guy who we hired that was laid off from an Aerospace Defense company after working there for years. He really has no clue about Windows, and mainly used unix. We often chat about unix/Linux as I've been studying Linux, and we talk about how great it is. He's shocked how poor Windows OS is from all the issues we have with our customers. He's just working here for a little while and is about to retire. Which I have no clue why he's even with us....lol
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@IRJ said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
From the looks of it, Microsoft isn't seeing their career path as being very serious anymore. Replacing an MCSE with "learning Teams"? WTF
Everything is cloud on Microsoft's certification tracts now. You can't be Windows Server certified anymore
. It's been a phase out, that's been happening for a couple of years and is no surpriseNot a surprise. But doesn't change what a statement it is.
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@IRJ said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
Certifications by Microsoft are just a way of having getting professionals to push their products. Subscription based products are much more profitable then Windows Server.
Throwing their traditional base under the bus, though, isn't necessarily a good way to push their products.
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On a plus side, that means that the MCSE will be retired and they never offered the top level cert again since the 1990s. So the certification runs out with only about 1,000 of us having ever gotten the terminal cert.
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
@IRJ said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
From the looks of it, Microsoft isn't seeing their career path as being very serious anymore. Replacing an MCSE with "learning Teams"? WTF
Everything is cloud on Microsoft's certification tracts now. You can't be Windows Server certified anymore
. It's been a phase out, that's been happening for a couple of years and is no surpriseNot a surprise. But doesn't change what a statement it is.
I don't know. I see windows server having an update strategy like Windows 10. We aren't expecting a Windows 11 anytime soon.
Plus Microsoft has been pushing for Linux really hard for a couple years now. Right around the time of phasing out of these certs.
They've been really SQL for Linux especially. Since SQL is a very profitable product line, this is interesting and shows that they believe linux is a better platform to run their database.
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So if an individual is studying for the MCSE, should they continue that route or focus on the new MS platform path?
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@Fredtx in some ways, if someone was already studying for the MCSE, I'd want to continue and get it. Because that's a feather in your cap that you can never get again.
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@IRJ said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
Certifications by Microsoft are just a way of having getting professionals to push their products. Subscription based products are much more profitable then Windows Server.
I feel like this will push techs to not study their products, and perhaps study another OS such as Redhat or Ubuntu.
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@Fredtx said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
@IRJ said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
Certifications by Microsoft are just a way of having getting professionals to push their products. Subscription based products are much more profitable then Windows Server.
I feel like this will push techs to not study their products, and perhaps study another OS such as Redhat or Ubuntu.
I think Microsoft's thinking here is that techs don't deploy and manage MS products. But rather managers and IT buyers do. Microsoft's product line is aimed at selling to management, not IT.
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
@Fredtx said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
@IRJ said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
Certifications by Microsoft are just a way of having getting professionals to push their products. Subscription based products are much more profitable then Windows Server.
I feel like this will push techs to not study their products, and perhaps study another OS such as Redhat or Ubuntu.
I think Microsoft's thinking here is that techs don't deploy and manage MS products. But rather managers and IT buyers do. Microsoft's product line is aimed at selling to management, not IT.
I’m more referring to the education/self-learning paths for 2020 for techs. Managers/IT Buyers may not decide to buy these other products for a few years.
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@Fredtx said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
@Fredtx said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
@IRJ said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
Certifications by Microsoft are just a way of having getting professionals to push their products. Subscription based products are much more profitable then Windows Server.
I feel like this will push techs to not study their products, and perhaps study another OS such as Redhat or Ubuntu.
I think Microsoft's thinking here is that techs don't deploy and manage MS products. But rather managers and IT buyers do. Microsoft's product line is aimed at selling to management, not IT.
I’m more referring to the education/self-learning paths for 2020 for techs. Managers/IT Buyers may not decide to buy these other products for a few years.
My point is just that Microsoft doesn't see their products and education path as being targeted at IT. So they are happy to have IT people not study their products, as their products are targeted at that audience. I bet you'll find that IT is driving extremely little Microsoft purchasing these days.
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@Fredtx said in Microsoft plans on retiring the MCSA,MCSD,MCSE certifications in June 30,2020:
I personally made a decision a few weeks ago to start putting my studying into the RHCA as opposed to the MCSA. For one, Linux seems to be more fun as I've been playing with it in my home lab, and two, there is not that many people who know Linux. Glad I made that decision.
Yup, plenty of Linux jobs / roles out there for sure!
Do exactly what you enjoy!
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What certifications exist still for folk using Windows Server on premise then, or none?
