Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.
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Hi,
Requirement is to run Odoo erp on cloud, let's say I spin a Ubuntu server on Digital Ocean or Vultr.
Since this erp server itself is a web server as well for the company website, I may want to run email server in this server itself and manage email, records, dns etc. through free Cpanel alternative on Ubuntu, such as Webmin.
Option 1:Kindly advise, cpanel alternative, email server etc. for above requirement.
Option 2: If I want to run erp, web server (should have control panel), but still wants to use email service of GoDaddy where we have hosting account.
Thanks a lot!
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@openit said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
Since this erp server itself is a web server as well for the company website, I may want to run email server in this server itself and manage email, records, dns etc. through free Cpanel alternative on Ubuntu, such as Webmin.
That Odoo uses a web interface in no way would make you want to make this leap. In fact, totally the opposite. This should read more like this...
"Since it is bad practice to mix workloads AND since Odoo and email would both use web technologies, it's more important than ever that I avoid putting both on the same machine."
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@scottalanmiller said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
@openit said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
Since this erp server itself is a web server as well for the company website, I may want to run email server in this server itself and manage email, records, dns etc. through free Cpanel alternative on Ubuntu, such as Webmin.
That Odoo uses a web interface in no way would make you want to make this leap. In fact, totally the opposite. This should read more like this...
"Since it is bad practice to mix workloads AND since Odoo and email would both use web technologies, it's more important than ever that I avoid putting both on the same machine."
How about option 2 I was asking about? wherein email service will be with GoDoaddy....
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@openit said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
Option 2: If I want to run erp, web server (should have control panel), but still wants to use email service of GoDaddy where we have hosting account.
I'd say you'd never want that no matter what else was going on. GoDaddy is a terrible web host.
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@openit said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
Option 1:Kindly advise, cpanel alternative, email server etc. for above requirement.
What's the reason for wanting cPanel or similar? These things often make way more problems than they solve. Harder to administer, slower, more cumbersome.
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Webmin is a bit different, but I'd still ask... what's the "itch you are trying to scratch?" Or "what is the problem you are trying to resolve?"
Running Odoo should be really easy. Running email is really easy. Putting them together on the same host might cause problems. Running cPanel or Webmin is just more risk and problems, if they aren't solving something specific, why keep introducing problems?
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What email do you want to have? Why not run one VM with Odoo and one with Mailcow or Zimbra and voila, done. Two easy systems that don't mess with each other, no panel problems to deal with.
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@scottalanmiller said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
What email do you want to have? Why not run one VM with Odoo and one with Mailcow or Zimbra and voila, done. Two easy systems that don't mess with each other, no panel problems to deal with.
Oh ok, so your suggestion is:
Server 1: Odoo - erp and website
Server 2: Email server - I need the easiest one to manage
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I'm with Scott on this, but if you are looking for a free hosting control panel check out ISPconfig. I use this myself.
https://www.ispconfig.org -
@openit said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
@scottalanmiller said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
What email do you want to have? Why not run one VM with Odoo and one with Mailcow or Zimbra and voila, done. Two easy systems that don't mess with each other, no panel problems to deal with.
Oh ok, so your suggestion is:
Server 1: Odoo - erp and website
Server 2: Email server - I need the easiest one to manageCorrect. Having both on the same VM guarantees that you have to manage more than you need to with them separate, and potentially introducing any number of application conflicts. It is not necessarily like having two WordPress sites on one Apache server. It might be, but very unlikely. Most likely they will mess with each other in bad ways or having conflicting requirements.
So two VMs. MailCow is probably the easiest email, but that's going by other's recommendations. We use Zimbra, and it isn't bad. Easier than cPanel at least
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@scottalanmiller @StuartJordan
Nice.
Do you people have any other suggestions, while running servers on cloud for the first time? might be about security or something else? -
Make sure you use current Ubuntu, don't opt for something old like most people do. Somehow people get this idea that Ubuntu should be not kept up to date, some bizarre carry over from problems in the Windows world.
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Are you looking for an email solution for your company as a whole? or just something for the ERP system to use?
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@Dashrender said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
Are you looking for an email solution for your company as a whole? or just something for the ERP system to use?
In fact, it is requirement of running odoo erp for someone else, but they are willing to build and run their company website as well with erp, so from there idea came out, what if we run email server as well in pack and above are suggestions.
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@openit said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
@scottalanmiller @StuartJordan
Nice.
Do you people have any other suggestions, while running servers on cloud for the first time? might be about security or something else?You treat the security the same for any public server, being cloud makes no difference. If you not sure on how to implement server hardening I would get a managed service.
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@openit said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
and run their company website as well with erp
What does this part mean? Like their public company site?
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@openit said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
what if we run email server as well in pack and above are suggestions.
Does the company not have email at all yet? This is business email for actual workers?
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@scottalanmiller said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
@openit said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
what if we run email server as well in pack and above are suggestions.
Does the company not have email at all yet? This is business email for actual workers?
This was kinda where I was going with my Email question - i.e. is this a greenfield company? never had email?
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@scottalanmiller said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
@openit said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
and run their company website as well with erp
What does this part mean? Like their public company site?
I think he means that odoo can host your website in its infra. To let you keep it up with contents. Like a reserved area for customers to check for their docs (invoices, ...)
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@openit said in Needs suggestion on email server/ control panel for Ubuntu to run erp, web n emails.:
Odoo
That has been the worst install of a CRM I have ever done even in Ubuntu. Heavily do not recommend it.
