Gaming Rig Issues
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@smartkid808 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@scottalanmiller said in Gaming Rig Issues:
CPU might be damaged from being run so hot. But most likely it is just a failure of the cooling system.
Has anyone been able to get corsair (or similar) to pay for damaged CPU?
Not when you overclock.
Overclocking voids your warranty options in almot every case.
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@scottalanmiller said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
In looking at some of the reports on this CPU it maxes out at 75° C or 167° F considering this system wasn't under any major load for this time period I would think the unit is damaged.
yeah, considering under light load my AMD is 23° C, that one should not idle at 75° C.
On the server I'm looking at IPMI says 79°C would cause a high temperature alarm, 82°C would be critical high and at 84°C the server will shut down.
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@smartkid808 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@scottalanmiller said in Gaming Rig Issues:
CPU might be damaged from being run so hot. But most likely it is just a failure of the cooling system.
Has anyone been able to get corsair (or similar) to pay for damaged CPU?
Not when you overclock.
Overclocking voids your warranty options in almot every case.
Yeah, the term overclocking means going beyond the spec. While someone could in theory allow you to do so within warranty, absolutely no company ever actually will.
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@smartkid808 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@scottalanmiller said in Gaming Rig Issues:
CPU might be damaged from being run so hot. But most likely it is just a failure of the cooling system.
Has anyone been able to get corsair (or similar) to pay for damaged CPU?
Two problems. The overclocking obviously, but also it is being run after the cooler died. Even if they warrantied other parts, and no one does, you definitely won't get them to pay because of either of those issues.
But Corsair definitely does not warranty the durability of the CPU that they are cooling. It's the job of the CPU and mobo to monitor and shut down if it goes beyond spec.
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You need to get a new cooler first. OC is for people who don't care about a stable and reliable system. That's why Xeons are underclocked. Hopefully its not that bad, but it's possible that you fried the CPU.
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What @Pete-S is saying is the CPU might be able to operate fine with a good working CPU cooler. Which can save you some money by not having to replace both the CPU and the cooler.
It's an option, but that CPU should be a bit cooler than is listed in your report there.
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@scottalanmiller said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Overclocking voids your warranty options in almot every case.
Yeah, the term overclocking means going beyond the spec. While someone could in theory allow you to do so within warranty, absolutely no company ever actually will.
I did not mention this to Corsair in the ticket.. Hopefully they respond today.
Should I let him use it only for youtube and basic stuff? Get a temp cooler, or buy new one and sell the one the replace (if they replace it)? It seems stable enough doing that. I know not ideal..
It ran great for about a year OC..
Since I have to buy a new one (not sure how long they will take to replace, if they will).. Should i buy the new RGB model (with pretty lights to go with his other lights), which is $160, or purchase the 2700x with heat sink for $300.. I would say go Intel, but then I would have to buy a new board..
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@smartkid808 switching to Intel isn't an option if your goal is to spend as little money as possible to fix this issue.
First see if you can get a replacement cooler, run the tests again and see how the system performs.
If the temps are still high, find another CPU and install that.
If warranty covers the cooler, you're only out the cost of a replacement CPU.
Also I always recommend buying CPUs with provided heatsinks and fans as warranty covers them if they fail.
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@smartkid808 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
I would say go Intel, but then I would have to buy a new board..
But why? AMD makes really great stuff, especially in this space.
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@smartkid808 switching to Intel isn't an option if your goal is to spend as little money as possible to fix this issue.
And not practical in any way. It's like blowing your tired from driving over nails and then switching from Ford to Chevy because of it. It's an unrelated factor.
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Also I always recommend buying CPUs with provided heatsinks and fans as warranty covers them if they fail.
Unless you overclock. Also something most of us don't recommend, but we understand why gamers do it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
@smartkid808 switching to Intel isn't an option if your goal is to spend as little money as possible to fix this issue.
And not practical in any way. It's like blowing your tired from driving over nails and then switching from Ford to Chevy because of it. It's an unrelated factor.
Driving a Ford is a part of the issue in the first place. . . I mean it's FORD. Found on road Dead, Fixed or repaired daily, First On Recall Day, Fast Only Rolling Downhill, Fork Over Repair Dough, Forced On Reluctant Drivers. . .
The list goes on.
AMD is not a Ford.
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
What @Pete-S is saying is the CPU might be able to operate fine with a good working CPU cooler. Which can save you some money by not having to replace both the CPU and the cooler.
It's an option, but that CPU should be a bit cooler than is listed in your report there.
Yes, correct.
The CPU should only be cooler if the water cooler is working. If it isn't circulating the temperatures shown are normal (very high).
Usually the CPU protects itself from thermal damage by lowering it's frequency.
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Also I always recommend buying CPUs with provided heatsinks and fans as warranty covers them if they fail.
So better to use old school, proven to work, heat sinks over AIO/water cooling?
@scottalanmiller said in Gaming Rig Issues:
But why? AMD makes really great stuff, especially in this space.
Since he now uses it more for gaming than video editing, i was thinking Intel, but since its too much to buy, its out of the question.
@Pete-S said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Yes, correct.
The CPU should only be cooler if the water cooler is working. If it isn't circulating the temperatures shown are normal (very high).
Usually the CPU protects itself from thermal damage by lowering it's frequency.I am hoping thats the case and CPU is ok
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Now to add something, I bought new RAM since the original ram is not being seen as 3200 by the bios, and is only seen at 2133 (since day 1).. No, its not on the QVL, neither is the ones i bought (as the list is over year old), so hoping one of the new ones work better, and just sell the ones in the current ones in the system now.
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@smartkid808 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
So better to use old school, proven to work, heat sinks over AIO/water cooling
Water cooling is just air cooling with an additional radiator and a closed loop system.
@smartkid808 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Since he now uses it more for gaming than video editing, i was thinking Intel, but since its too much to buy, its out of the question.
It should never be a part of the question since the goal is not to build a brand new computer. .
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@smartkid808 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Now to add something, I bought new RAM since the original ram is not being seen as 3200 by the bios, and is only seen at 2133 (since day 1)..
Any DVR4 2666 ram will work fine in this unit. Why are you opting to purchase RAM for overclocking?
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Assuming you are using a 2nd gen Ryzen CPU. If you're using an A-Gen you can't go above 2400 MHz.
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Any DVR4 2666 ram will work fine in this unit. Why are you opting to purchase RAM for overclocking?
Well I purchased the 3200 for it, but only reading at 2133. For gaming, wouldn't the faster memory be better.
@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Assuming you are using a 2nd gen Ryzen CPU. If you're using an A-Gen you can't go above 2400 MHz.
First Gen, 1700x. From what I saw before 3200 should be fine, but looking it up on AMD site, its 2667.
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@DustinB3403 said in Gaming Rig Issues:
Any DVR4 2666 ram will work fine in this unit. Why are you opting to purchase RAM for overclocking?
I was going to put the new one in and sell the old one.. But not sure I should do that. I'll have to think about it.. If i can sell the old ones for $250 then I will. This is the one in the system currently , so if anyone wants to buy it, make me an offer.. lol
