Certifications! Are they still worth pursuing?
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@irj said in Certifications! Are they still worth pursuing?:
@scottalanmiller said in Certifications! Are they still worth pursuing?:
@wirestyle22 said in Certifications! Are they still worth pursuing?:
The knowledge is beneficial but the piece of paper is irrelevant. I use certification books as education paths and then have @scottalanmiller and @JaredBusch yell at me until i understand. It's worked well for me. As a side note, Cisco can over-complicate a lot of simple concepts so watch out for that.
I think Cisco is a bad path for general education. Their material is super Cisco specific and engineered way more to promote the use of their products than they should be. You could say something similar about Windows certs, but operating systems have to be like that in a way that networking does not and Microsoft is certainly better about keeping knowledge and concepts more general. Cisco certs are for Cisco jobs.
Great business model for Cisco, though. Without CCNA, Cisco would lose a huge market share IMO.
Yes, they all learned that model from Novell. If only Novell had learned it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Certifications! Are they still worth pursuing?:
@irj said in Certifications! Are they still worth pursuing?:
@scottalanmiller said in Certifications! Are they still worth pursuing?:
@wirestyle22 said in Certifications! Are they still worth pursuing?:
The knowledge is beneficial but the piece of paper is irrelevant. I use certification books as education paths and then have @scottalanmiller and @JaredBusch yell at me until i understand. It's worked well for me. As a side note, Cisco can over-complicate a lot of simple concepts so watch out for that.
I think Cisco is a bad path for general education. Their material is super Cisco specific and engineered way more to promote the use of their products than they should be. You could say something similar about Windows certs, but operating systems have to be like that in a way that networking does not and Microsoft is certainly better about keeping knowledge and concepts more general. Cisco certs are for Cisco jobs.
Great business model for Cisco, though. Without CCNA, Cisco would lose a huge market share IMO.
Yes, they all learned that model from Novell. If only Novell had learned it.
It amazes me how much I hear Novell referenced. People are still upset it failed.
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@obsolesce I know technically it's still around, but it failed.
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Yeah many people are still having trouble getting over it... people still bring it up as if their 30 year old Novell certification has any merit today.
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@wirestyle22 said in Certifications! Are they still worth pursuing?:
@scottalanmiller said in Certifications! Are they still worth pursuing?:
@irj said in Certifications! Are they still worth pursuing?:
@scottalanmiller said in Certifications! Are they still worth pursuing?:
@wirestyle22 said in Certifications! Are they still worth pursuing?:
The knowledge is beneficial but the piece of paper is irrelevant. I use certification books as education paths and then have @scottalanmiller and @JaredBusch yell at me until i understand. It's worked well for me. As a side note, Cisco can over-complicate a lot of simple concepts so watch out for that.
I think Cisco is a bad path for general education. Their material is super Cisco specific and engineered way more to promote the use of their products than they should be. You could say something similar about Windows certs, but operating systems have to be like that in a way that networking does not and Microsoft is certainly better about keeping knowledge and concepts more general. Cisco certs are for Cisco jobs.
Great business model for Cisco, though. Without CCNA, Cisco would lose a huge market share IMO.
Yes, they all learned that model from Novell. If only Novell had learned it.
It amazes me how much I hear Novell referenced. People are still upset it failed.
Not many, it was pretty crappy. Stable, but archaic, even at its peak. But they did a lot to give us much of Suse, so that's good.
