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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Corruption happens in the filesystem. The OS doesn't matter here, but the FS does. So we'd need to know what FS you are using.

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        mattbagan @Alex Sage
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        @aaronstuder said in Fedora Powerloss:

        No Battery Backup?

        Its on my buy list. The computer hasn't been doing much so I didn't feel the need for one. I just recently decided to convert it to the home lab.

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          mattbagan @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

          Corruption happens in the filesystem. The OS doesn't matter here, but the FS does. So we'd need to know what FS you are using.

          File system is XFS.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre
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            All of the Linux filesystems I've seen will do a check at start up after a power outage if you leave the fstab settings at defaults.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @dafyre
              last edited by

              @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

              All of the Linux filesystems I've seen will do a check at start up after a power outage if you leave the fstab settings at defaults.

              You've not used any in a while. Most journal and have no need for a check after power loss. 🙂

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                All of the Linux filesystems I've seen will do a check at start up after a power outage if you leave the fstab settings at defaults.

                You've not used any in a while. Most journal and have no need for a check after power loss. 🙂

                Mine does it every time (EXT4).

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
                  last edited by

                  @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                  @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                  All of the Linux filesystems I've seen will do a check at start up after a power outage if you leave the fstab settings at defaults.

                  You've not used any in a while. Most journal and have no need for a check after power loss. 🙂

                  Mine does it every time (EXT4).

                  That's odd. But EXT is the old one 😉

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                    @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                    @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                    All of the Linux filesystems I've seen will do a check at start up after a power outage if you leave the fstab settings at defaults.

                    You've not used any in a while. Most journal and have no need for a check after power loss. 🙂

                    Mine does it every time (EXT4).

                    That's odd. But EXT is the old one 😉

                    Mint 18 build, so it's not exactly shiney any more.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @dafyre
                      last edited by

                      @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                      @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                      @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                      All of the Linux filesystems I've seen will do a check at start up after a power outage if you leave the fstab settings at defaults.

                      You've not used any in a while. Most journal and have no need for a check after power loss. 🙂

                      Mine does it every time (EXT4).

                      That's odd. But EXT is the old one 😉

                      Mint 18 build, so it's not exactly shiney any more.

                      Built on legacy Ubuntu LTS

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                      • Emad RE
                        Emad R @mattbagan
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                        @mattbagan said in Fedora Powerloss:

                        sume, I would need to start over with the vm installs, considering they were in the middle of installing the OS. Host machine is setup with mdadm raid.

                        check the file system for errors + scrub the raid array if you are paranoid

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Emad R
                          last edited by

                          @emad-r said in Fedora Powerloss:

                          @mattbagan said in Fedora Powerloss:

                          sume, I would need to start over with the vm installs, considering they were in the middle of installing the OS. Host machine is setup with mdadm raid.

                          check the file system for errors + scrub the raid array if you are paranoid

                          XFS doesn't even have a filesystem check utility 🙂

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                          • thwrT
                            thwr @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by thwr

                            @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                            @emad-r said in Fedora Powerloss:

                            @mattbagan said in Fedora Powerloss:

                            sume, I would need to start over with the vm installs, considering they were in the middle of installing the OS. Host machine is setup with mdadm raid.

                            check the file system for errors + scrub the raid array if you are paranoid

                            XFS doesn't even have a filesystem check utility 🙂

                            xfs_check
                            http://docs.cray.com/books/S-2377-22/html-S-2377-22/z1029470303.html

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @thwr
                              last edited by

                              @thwr said in Fedora Powerloss:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                              @emad-r said in Fedora Powerloss:

                              @mattbagan said in Fedora Powerloss:

                              sume, I would need to start over with the vm installs, considering they were in the middle of installing the OS. Host machine is setup with mdadm raid.

                              check the file system for errors + scrub the raid array if you are paranoid

                              XFS doesn't even have a filesystem check utility 🙂

                              xfs_check
                              http://docs.cray.com/books/S-2377-22/html-S-2377-22/z1029470303.html

                              Does it actually do something? XFS famously does a placebo check.

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                              • thwrT
                                thwr @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                @thwr said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                @emad-r said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                @mattbagan said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                sume, I would need to start over with the vm installs, considering they were in the middle of installing the OS. Host machine is setup with mdadm raid.

                                check the file system for errors + scrub the raid array if you are paranoid

                                XFS doesn't even have a filesystem check utility 🙂

                                xfs_check
                                http://docs.cray.com/books/S-2377-22/html-S-2377-22/z1029470303.html

                                Does it actually do something? XFS famously does a placebo check.

                                Honestly, I don't know 😛

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                  @thwr said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                  @emad-r said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                  @mattbagan said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                  sume, I would need to start over with the vm installs, considering they were in the middle of installing the OS. Host machine is setup with mdadm raid.

                                  check the file system for errors + scrub the raid array if you are paranoid

                                  XFS doesn't even have a filesystem check utility 🙂

                                  xfs_check
                                  http://docs.cray.com/books/S-2377-22/html-S-2377-22/z1029470303.html

                                  Does it actually do something? XFS famously does a placebo check.

                                  Yes, it actually does something. It's fixed a couple of systems here for me that wouldn't mount a data drive.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                    last edited by

                                    @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                    @thwr said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                    @emad-r said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                    @mattbagan said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                    sume, I would need to start over with the vm installs, considering they were in the middle of installing the OS. Host machine is setup with mdadm raid.

                                    check the file system for errors + scrub the raid array if you are paranoid

                                    XFS doesn't even have a filesystem check utility 🙂

                                    xfs_check
                                    http://docs.cray.com/books/S-2377-22/html-S-2377-22/z1029470303.html

                                    Does it actually do something? XFS famously does a placebo check.

                                    Yes, it actually does something. It's fixed a couple of systems here for me that wouldn't mount a data drive.

                                    Interesting. With XFS?

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                      @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                      @thwr said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                      @emad-r said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                      @mattbagan said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                      sume, I would need to start over with the vm installs, considering they were in the middle of installing the OS. Host machine is setup with mdadm raid.

                                      check the file system for errors + scrub the raid array if you are paranoid

                                      XFS doesn't even have a filesystem check utility 🙂

                                      xfs_check
                                      http://docs.cray.com/books/S-2377-22/html-S-2377-22/z1029470303.html

                                      Does it actually do something? XFS famously does a placebo check.

                                      Yes, it actually does something. It's fixed a couple of systems here for me that wouldn't mount a data drive.

                                      Interesting. With XFS?

                                      Yepp. I know the system is XFS. I'm trying to get connected to it now, but it lost it's AD connection and I don't have a local login on it, lol.

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                                      • thwrT
                                        thwr @dafyre
                                        last edited by thwr

                                        @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                        @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                        @thwr said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                        @emad-r said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                        @mattbagan said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                        sume, I would need to start over with the vm installs, considering they were in the middle of installing the OS. Host machine is setup with mdadm raid.

                                        check the file system for errors + scrub the raid array if you are paranoid

                                        XFS doesn't even have a filesystem check utility 🙂

                                        xfs_check
                                        http://docs.cray.com/books/S-2377-22/html-S-2377-22/z1029470303.html

                                        Does it actually do something? XFS famously does a placebo check.

                                        Yes, it actually does something. It's fixed a couple of systems here for me that wouldn't mount a data drive.

                                        Interesting. With XFS?

                                        Yepp. I know the system is XFS. I'm trying to get connected to it now, but it lost it's AD connection and I don't have a local login on it, lol.

                                        Can't you boot the machine using some LiveCD and alter the PAM order / add pam_unix/pam_localuser? You could also change root's password this way. This only works if the drive is not encrypted or you have the key.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @thwr
                                          last edited by

                                          @thwr said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                          @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                          @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                          @thwr said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                          @emad-r said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                          @mattbagan said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                          sume, I would need to start over with the vm installs, considering they were in the middle of installing the OS. Host machine is setup with mdadm raid.

                                          check the file system for errors + scrub the raid array if you are paranoid

                                          XFS doesn't even have a filesystem check utility 🙂

                                          xfs_check
                                          http://docs.cray.com/books/S-2377-22/html-S-2377-22/z1029470303.html

                                          Does it actually do something? XFS famously does a placebo check.

                                          Yes, it actually does something. It's fixed a couple of systems here for me that wouldn't mount a data drive.

                                          Interesting. With XFS?

                                          Yepp. I know the system is XFS. I'm trying to get connected to it now, but it lost it's AD connection and I don't have a local login on it, lol.

                                          Can't you boot the machine using some LiveCD and alter the PAM order / add pam_unix/pam_localuser? You could also change root's password this way. This only works if the drive is not encrypted or you have the key.

                                          Yeah, I could do that, but I like my job, lol. In an emergency that's what we do, but this isn't an emergency (the system is up, my login isn't working).

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                                          • thwrT
                                            thwr @dafyre
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                                            @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                            @thwr said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                            @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                            @dafyre said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                            @thwr said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                            @emad-r said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                            @mattbagan said in Fedora Powerloss:

                                            sume, I would need to start over with the vm installs, considering they were in the middle of installing the OS. Host machine is setup with mdadm raid.

                                            check the file system for errors + scrub the raid array if you are paranoid

                                            XFS doesn't even have a filesystem check utility 🙂

                                            xfs_check
                                            http://docs.cray.com/books/S-2377-22/html-S-2377-22/z1029470303.html

                                            Does it actually do something? XFS famously does a placebo check.

                                            Yes, it actually does something. It's fixed a couple of systems here for me that wouldn't mount a data drive.

                                            Interesting. With XFS?

                                            Yepp. I know the system is XFS. I'm trying to get connected to it now, but it lost it's AD connection and I don't have a local login on it, lol.

                                            Can't you boot the machine using some LiveCD and alter the PAM order / add pam_unix/pam_localuser? You could also change root's password this way. This only works if the drive is not encrypted or you have the key.

                                            Yeah, I could do that, but I like my job, lol. In an emergency that's what we do, but this isn't an emergency (the system is up, my login isn't working).

                                            If you say so 😉

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