Reinstall Windows on Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro
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@ajstringham said:
Exactly, which is why it fixed it. I'm saying there was probably a driver utility added in by Lenovo to the system.
So you are saying that although they could not get software on there, they probably got software on there? I don't follow what you are trying to say.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
Exactly, which is why it fixed it. I'm saying there was probably a driver utility added in by Lenovo to the system.
So you are saying that although they could not get software on there, they probably got software on there? I don't follow what you are trying to say.
I'm confused. When they shipped the PC, the image it came with was Lenovo's. They could have added any number of things on there, including driver utilities. Wiping it with a vanilla Windows 8.1 disc fixed that.
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@ajstringham said:
I'm confused. When they shipped the PC, the image it came with was Lenovo's. They could have added any number of things on there, including driver utilities. Wiping it with a vanilla Windows 8.1 disc fixed that.
Yes, the image was full of Lenovo drivers and bloatware as we know. No need for a driver utility of any kind. Then it was wiped and Windows 8.1 was installed from a clean copy direct for MS and that worked fine. And now no way for Lenovo to get a utility on there.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
I'm confused. When they shipped the PC, the image it came with was Lenovo's. They could have added any number of things on there, including driver utilities. Wiping it with a vanilla Windows 8.1 disc fixed that.
Yes, the image was full of Lenovo drivers and bloatware as we know. No need for a driver utility of any kind. Then it was wiped and Windows 8.1 was installed from a clean copy direct for MS and that worked fine. And now no way for Lenovo to get a utility on there.
Right, and that's what I'm saying. It works now because all that stuff is gone.
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Well the important part is that it works now.
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@Minion-Queen said:
Well the important part is that it works now.
Exactly. I don't know why @scottalanmiller and I are arguing. We are in agreement...lol
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@ajstringham Umm yeah, you guys were saying the exact same thing, I'm not sure why @scottalanmiller was still arguing?
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@Dominica Thank you! I was agreeing with him and just stating the facts...I'm so confused...LOL
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We are having problems, so I'm going to try Windows 10 now.
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@Dominica , still having issues, even with the vanilla 8.1?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
My Pro 2 had network connectivity issues in general, I didn't narrow it down to only browser based versus SMB or any other protocols, After replacing the NIC with an AC NIC (the ones a year ago shipped with N cards) those problems went away.
It's not just browsers, it's that that is where we saw it the instant that she tried to use the laptop and post that she had gotten in. The very first action on the laptop exposed that shim.
Yes, it sounds like you had the issue and that there was a shim in the driver. Going to a third party NIC would bypass the driver.
Not exactly a third party NIC - I replaced the internal Intel NIC with the next generation Intel NIC.
The drive was the same (though I had downloaded and updated the driver directly from Intel's website (the new driver continued to have problems on the old original card.
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@Dominica said:
We are having problems, so I'm going to try Windows 10 now.
did you get a refurbed machine?
My wife recently got this exact same machine, we picked it up from BB about 2 weeks ago.
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@Dashrender said:
@Dominica said:
We are having problems, so I'm going to try Windows 10 now.
did you get a refurbed machine?
My wife recently got this exact same machine, we picked it up from BB about 2 weeks ago.
No, brand new direct from Lenovo.
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@ajstringham said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Well the important part is that it works now.
Exactly. I don't know why @scottalanmiller and I are arguing. We are in agreement...lol
Yeah, apparently I was all confused. The driver utility thing threw me off.
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@scottalanmiller no biggie. Happens to all of us sometimes. We chase the white rabbit in our own mind after we read or interpret something wrong.
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@Dominica said:
@ajstringham Umm yeah, you guys were saying the exact same thing, I'm not sure why @scottalanmiller was still arguing?
Umm, cause he likes to argue?
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@art_of_shred said:
@Dominica said:
@ajstringham Umm yeah, you guys were saying the exact same thing, I'm not sure why @scottalanmiller was still arguing?
Umm, cause he likes to argue?
No comment lol
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Cool glad that worked. So it was the bloatwear causing the issues then, sigh.
No, not necessarily. Our fear is that it was a network shim siphoning data. Could be bloatware, but we could find none that did it. It looks like it was a modification to the OS itself.
WAIT, WHAT? you think Lenovo installed some scrape-ware that is what? stealing your data?
You people think I am crazy. A network shim is exactly what Lenovo has not been caught to have installed on the laptops from exactly when this happened!!
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Wow.. so somehow this shim was causing you problems.. I wonder what happened to break it in your case?
Did formatting and starting over solve your issue?
And what media did you use to reinstall?
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@Dashrender said:
Wow.. so somehow this shim was causing you problems.. I wonder what happened to break it in your case?
Did formatting and starting over solve your issue?
And what media did you use to reinstall?
Yup, the problems that we had looked exactly like someone using a shim to proxy data somewhere else (aka a man in the middle attack.) Most man in the middles will break socket.io that MangoLassi uses. This is the same thing that used to cause Untangle and Watchguard devices to break.
Formatting and installing a non-Lenovo Windows 10 image fixed things.
