Centralized Management of KVM Hosts
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I didn't want to poop all over this thread, but as I started reading up on KVM a little (and I do mean only a little), it seemed like there is a tool to centrally manage VMs but not hosts (see section 8.2 here about libvirt - https://www.suse.com/documentation/sles11/singlehtml/book_kvm/book_kvm.html).
Is there some separate tool to manage the hosts themselves if you have a pretty massive cluster, for example (whether the tool is free or requires a purchase)?
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What features are you looking for? What stuff is, for example, oVirt lacking?
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Wouldn't you just manage then similar to any Linux server?
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@coliver said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
Wouldn't you just manage then similar to any Linux server?
Yes, in most cases, you'd be managing them with Salt, Ansible, Cockpit, SSH scripts, or whatever you normally use. I'm not sure if there is a specific KVM feature that he's wondering about, or more generically how it is done.
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@scottalanmiller said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@coliver said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
Wouldn't you just manage then similar to any Linux server?
Yes, in most cases, you'd be managing them with Salt, Ansible, Cockpit, SSH scripts, or whatever you normally use. I'm not sure if there is a specific KVM feature that he's wondering about, or more generically how it is done.
That's what I thought. Wondering if @NetworkNerd is looking for something like vCenter for these hosts.
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@coliver said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@scottalanmiller said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@coliver said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
Wouldn't you just manage then similar to any Linux server?
Yes, in most cases, you'd be managing them with Salt, Ansible, Cockpit, SSH scripts, or whatever you normally use. I'm not sure if there is a specific KVM feature that he's wondering about, or more generically how it is done.
That's what I thought. Wondering if @NetworkNerd is looking for something like vCenter for these hosts.
I wrote this post in a hurry and really should have said what you said here. Does something like vCenter exist in the KVM ecosystem (i.e. a management interface someone could use to manage both hosts and VMs)? Or, is it more like, you can get to that point, but it takes a little work on your part to do it?
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@scottalanmiller said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
What features are you looking for? What stuff is, for example, oVirt lacking?
I'll have to read up on oVirt before I can answer that one. I had not heard of it until today. Thanks for the tip.
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@networknerd said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@scottalanmiller said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
What features are you looking for? What stuff is, for example, oVirt lacking?
I'll have to read up on oVirt before I can answer that one. I had not heard of it until today. Thanks for the tip.
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@dbeato said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@networknerd said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@scottalanmiller said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
What features are you looking for? What stuff is, for example, oVirt lacking?
I'll have to read up on oVirt before I can answer that one. I had not heard of it until today. Thanks for the tip.
That looks nightmareish for something that should be quite simple.
I took a quick look at: https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Management_Tools
I actually setup kimchi once, wasn't to bad from what I remember. It got blown away with the last home lab wipe tho
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@travisdh1 said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
That looks nightmareish for something that should be quite simple.
oVirt is super simple. They have a live boot ISO ready to go to install.
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@tim_g said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@travisdh1 said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
That looks nightmareish for something that should be quite simple.
oVirt is super simple. They have a live boot ISO ready to go to install.
I was in the middle of testing it before something came up that took precedence
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@tim_g said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@travisdh1 said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
That looks nightmareish for something that should be quite simple.
oVirt is super simple. They have a live boot ISO ready to go to install.
Ok, it's just that one page then. Much better.
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@travisdh1 said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@dbeato said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@networknerd said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@scottalanmiller said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
What features are you looking for? What stuff is, for example, oVirt lacking?
I'll have to read up on oVirt before I can answer that one. I had not heard of it until today. Thanks for the tip.
That looks nightmareish for something that should be quite simple.
I took a quick look at: https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Management_Tools
I actually setup kimchi once, wasn't to bad from what I remember. It got blown away with the last home lab wipe tho
Kimchi is another one. But for the Link is more technical on that but is simpler than that.
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@networknerd said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@scottalanmiller said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
What features are you looking for? What stuff is, for example, oVirt lacking?
I'll have to read up on oVirt before I can answer that one. I had not heard of it until today. Thanks for the tip.
It's a good tool, maybe not what you want, but one that you need to be aware of.
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@tim_g said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@travisdh1 said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
That looks nightmareish for something that should be quite simple.
oVirt is super simple. They have a live boot ISO ready to go to install.
I dont think it is super simple at all, if you ask me it is big mess. Only usable in big IT corp.
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@emad-r said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@tim_g said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@travisdh1 said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
That looks nightmareish for something that should be quite simple.
oVirt is super simple. They have a live boot ISO ready to go to install.
I dont think it is super simple at all, if you ask me it is big mess. Only usable in big IT corp.
What's difficult about it? In using it, it was just "install and bam, it worked". An SMB would find it far easier than the competition, from what I've used.
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@scottalanmiller said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@emad-r said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@tim_g said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@travisdh1 said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
That looks nightmareish for something that should be quite simple.
oVirt is super simple. They have a live boot ISO ready to go to install.
I dont think it is super simple at all, if you ask me it is big mess. Only usable in big IT corp.
What's difficult about it? In using it, it was just "install and bam, it worked". An SMB would find it far easier than the competition, from what I've used.
Isn’t there a script that can be reused at the end of setup, after installing the first time for quicker deployments?
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@black3dynamite said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@scottalanmiller said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@emad-r said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@tim_g said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
@travisdh1 said in Centralized Management of KVM Hosts:
That looks nightmareish for something that should be quite simple.
oVirt is super simple. They have a live boot ISO ready to go to install.
I dont think it is super simple at all, if you ask me it is big mess. Only usable in big IT corp.
What's difficult about it? In using it, it was just "install and bam, it worked". An SMB would find it far easier than the competition, from what I've used.
Isn’t there a script that can be reused at the end of setup, after installing the first time for quicker deployments?
That's easily possible, but not something that I've noticed.
