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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @krisleslie
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      @krisleslie said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

      Ok guys I'm utterly confused. So when I go back to the Edge Router, add the 10.10.3.1 and 10.10.4.1 to the interface for my lan, now the clients that were not able to get online are online again, no biggie. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how this is supposed to be properly set up.

      I am under the impression, all subnets should only be set up on the windows server directly, not on the router.

      Those clients have a gateway of 10.10.3.1 or 10.10.4.1.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @JaredBusch
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        @jaredbusch said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

        @krisleslie said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

        Ok guys I'm utterly confused. So when I go back to the Edge Router, add the 10.10.3.1 and 10.10.4.1 to the interface for my lan, now the clients that were not able to get online are online again, no biggie. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how this is supposed to be properly set up.

        I am under the impression, all subnets should only be set up on the windows server directly, not on the router.

        Those clients have a gateway of 10.10.3.1 or 10.10.4.1.

        Exactly - to fix those clients, you need to change their gateway to whatever you want the single gateway IP to be. Then you could get rid of those extra IPs on the ER interface.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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          @krisleslie said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

          Ok guys I'm utterly confused. So when I go back to the Edge Router, add the 10.10.3.1 and 10.10.4.1 to the interface for my lan, ...

          I might have missed this, but why do you have multiple networks on a single LAN?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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            @krisleslie said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

            I am under the impression, all subnets should only be set up on the windows server directly, not on the router.

            Set up in what way on the Windows Server? Why does Windows Server need configuration for subnets it is not on?

            What's the purpose of the different subnets?

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            • dbeatoD
              dbeato @krisleslie
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              @krisleslie said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

              Ok guys I'm utterly confused. So when I go back to the Edge Router, add the 10.10.3.1 and 10.10.4.1 to the interface for my lan, now the clients that were not able to get online are online again, no biggie. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how this is supposed to be properly set up.

              I am under the impression, all subnets should only be set up on the windows server directly, not on the router.

              So the Router options need to be change on each scope to have the correct gateway. You shouldn't need to have multiple gateways for each subnet. Do you have the guest subnet VLANs accessible from the Server?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @dbeato
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                @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                @krisleslie said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                Ok guys I'm utterly confused. So when I go back to the Edge Router, add the 10.10.3.1 and 10.10.4.1 to the interface for my lan, now the clients that were not able to get online are online again, no biggie. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how this is supposed to be properly set up.

                I am under the impression, all subnets should only be set up on the windows server directly, not on the router.

                So the Router options need to be change on each scope to have the correct gateway. You shouldn't need to have multiple gateways for each subnet. Do you have the guest subnet VLANs accessible from the Server?

                He only actually has two subnets.
                10.10.0.0/22 and 10.10.4.0/24

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                • dbeatoD
                  dbeato @JaredBusch
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                  @jaredbusch said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                  @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                  @krisleslie said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                  Ok guys I'm utterly confused. So when I go back to the Edge Router, add the 10.10.3.1 and 10.10.4.1 to the interface for my lan, now the clients that were not able to get online are online again, no biggie. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how this is supposed to be properly set up.

                  I am under the impression, all subnets should only be set up on the windows server directly, not on the router.

                  So the Router options need to be change on each scope to have the correct gateway. You shouldn't need to have multiple gateways for each subnet. Do you have the guest subnet VLANs accessible from the Server?

                  He only actually has two subnets.
                  10.10.0.0/22 and 10.10.4.0/24

                  Then that still is not good.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @dbeato
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                    @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                    @jaredbusch said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                    @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                    @krisleslie said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                    Ok guys I'm utterly confused. So when I go back to the Edge Router, add the 10.10.3.1 and 10.10.4.1 to the interface for my lan, now the clients that were not able to get online are online again, no biggie. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how this is supposed to be properly set up.

                    I am under the impression, all subnets should only be set up on the windows server directly, not on the router.

                    So the Router options need to be change on each scope to have the correct gateway. You shouldn't need to have multiple gateways for each subnet. Do you have the guest subnet VLANs accessible from the Server?

                    He only actually has two subnets.
                    10.10.0.0/22 and 10.10.4.0/24

                    Then that still is not good.

                    Exactly, and he's shown that he has many DHCP scopes scooped up into a SuperScope. all of that needs to be deleted and a new single zone for the 10.10.0.0/22 needs to be created.

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                    • dbeatoD
                      dbeato
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                      @krisleslie You need to reconfigure this network right now because you are overlapping networks which are included in the first network.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @dbeato
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                        @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                        @krisleslie You need to reconfigure this network right now because you are overlapping networks which are included in the first network.

                        No he isn't. He has a large subnet and a small subnet.

                        The large subnet has multiple gateways assigned on various computers for unknown reasons, but it is just 1 large subnet.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @dbeato
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                          @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                          @krisleslie You need to reconfigure this network right now because you are overlapping networks which are included in the first network.

                          I didn't do the math.. I was assuming 10.10.0.0 and 10.10.4.0 when in /22 overlaped, but they don't.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                            @dashrender said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                            @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                            @krisleslie You need to reconfigure this network right now because you are overlapping networks which are included in the first network.

                            I didn't do the math.. I was assuming 10.10.0.0 and 10.10.4.0 when in /22 overlaped, but they don't.

                            I posted pictures of it earlier, no need for maths..
                            https://i.imgur.com/QzDJIga.png

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              Looking back at the config in the first post - it appears that whoever set this up felt that they needed more than /22 on the single network, so they tossed on the 10.10.4.0/24 to give 256 more addresses to that space - why they didn't just go to 10.10.0.0/21 I don't understand.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                  @dashrender Because that would take it to 10.10.7.255

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                    @dashrender said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                                    @jaredbusch said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                                    @dashrender said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                                    @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                                    @krisleslie You need to reconfigure this network right now because you are overlapping networks which are included in the first network.

                                    I didn't do the math.. I was assuming 10.10.0.0 and 10.10.4.0 when in /22 overlaped, but they don't.

                                    I posted pictures of it earlier, no need for maths..
                                    https://i.imgur.com/QzDJIga.png

                                    Sure you did, but it doesn't actually show you the full size of the network... i.e. 10.10.0.0-10.0.3.254

                                    ...............

                                    look at the picture again....

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                      @jaredbusch said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                                      @dashrender said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                                      @jaredbusch said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                                      @dashrender said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                                      @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                                      @krisleslie You need to reconfigure this network right now because you are overlapping networks which are included in the first network.

                                      I didn't do the math.. I was assuming 10.10.0.0 and 10.10.4.0 when in /22 overlaped, but they don't.

                                      I posted pictures of it earlier, no need for maths..
                                      https://i.imgur.com/QzDJIga.png

                                      Sure you did, but it doesn't actually show you the full size of the network... i.e. 10.10.0.0-10.0.3.254

                                      ...............

                                      look at the picture again....

                                      yeah, I just noticed that last line.

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                                      • dbeatoD
                                        dbeato @JaredBusch
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                                        @jaredbusch said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                                        @dashrender said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                                        @dbeato said in UBNT EdgeRouter LAN Config Issue:

                                        @krisleslie You need to reconfigure this network right now because you are overlapping networks which are included in the first network.

                                        I didn't do the math.. I was assuming 10.10.0.0 and 10.10.4.0 when in /22 overlaped, but they don't.

                                        I posted pictures of it earlier, no need for maths..
                                        https://i.imgur.com/QzDJIga.png

                                        That makes more sense. So is just bad DHCP configuration.

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                                        • K
                                          krisleslie @dbeato
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                                          Ok so this makes a lot more sense. Heads up guys im not the network specialist so its really outside of my thought processes. Thats a weak point of mine and I am studying to get the network +.

                                          With that said, so I can make sure I understand is first the router was incorrectly setup on that one interface. To fix that, I will need to remove the other gateways and ultimately have just 10.10.0.1/21 instead of 10.10.2.1/22. If i were to remove it during business hours, some wireless devices eventually didnt have a gateway and thus no connection to the internet. But removing them will cleanse that problem after clean up the Windows Server DHCP service.

                                          So to fix the DHCP server, we need to remove each scope and super-scope and recreate only one scope as 10.10.0.0/21 which negates whatever way this was setup originally. The static ips we had assigned should still work and I just need to make sure we are excluding them from the scope.

                                          Lastly reboot and pray and possibly with adult bevarages.

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                                          • K
                                            krisleslie @krisleslie
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                                            The biggest issue i have is i normally have a well defined sheet that i structure for the entire network. Its not as good as ive seen some folks on here or spiceworks but it was easy enough to read and have a sense of knowing everything had a place.

                                            The way my associate setup this network, hell i cant even make heads or tails of it. Truth be told he cant either its just wrote down in a notepad in scribble last time we discussed this.

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