KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition
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@tim_g said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
Why EXT4?
Is there something wrong using ext4 instead of xfs besides Red Hat/CentOS using it by default?
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@black3dynamite said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@tim_g said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
Why EXT4?
Is there something wrong using ext4 instead of xfs besides Red Hat/CentOS using it by default?
I have the same question.
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@black3dynamite said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@tim_g said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
Why EXT4?
Is there something wrong using ext4 instead of xfs besides Red Hat/CentOS using it by default?
As with everything, reverse the question - is there something right about it? XFS is faster and more stable. What does EXT4 have going for it? EXT4 is not a bad filesystem, but "not bad" isn't a reason to choose a filesystem. Which one is best for your environment? I don't know any server environments where EXT4 is good enough to be considered - because it would have to be meaningfully better than XFS in some area for that to be useful.
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@scottalanmiller said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@black3dynamite said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@tim_g said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
Why EXT4?
Is there something wrong using ext4 instead of xfs besides Red Hat/CentOS using it by default?
As with everything, reverse the question - is there something right about it? XFS is faster and more stable. What does EXT4 have going for it? EXT4 is not a bad filesystem, but "not bad" isn't a reason to choose a filesystem. Which one is best for your environment? I don't know any server environments where EXT4 is good enough to be considered - because it would have to be meaningfully better than XFS in some area for that to be useful.
Looks like I just need to read up on ext4 vs xfs.
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@fuznutz04 said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@scottalanmiller said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@black3dynamite said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@tim_g said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
Why EXT4?
Is there something wrong using ext4 instead of xfs besides Red Hat/CentOS using it by default?
As with everything, reverse the question - is there something right about it? XFS is faster and more stable. What does EXT4 have going for it? EXT4 is not a bad filesystem, but "not bad" isn't a reason to choose a filesystem. Which one is best for your environment? I don't know any server environments where EXT4 is good enough to be considered - because it would have to be meaningfully better than XFS in some area for that to be useful.
Looks like I just need to read up on ext4 vs xfs.
Or just move on to XFS. It's a super rare case that you want anything else. Basically, always choose XFS unless you have a very clear reason to do something else. You'd have an edge case with your storage to want to even look at alternatives, and when you do BtrFS and ZFS are definitely more likely to be the case over EXT4, and JFS2, GFS2, OCFS, and others will compete heavily with EXT4.
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@scottalanmiller said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
and when you do BtrFS and ZFS are definitely more likely to be the case over EXT4, and JFS2, GFS2, OCFS, and others will compete heavily with EXT4.
I almost did BtrFS + XFS (Btrfs in place of LVM) on my main laptop. I still want to somewhere just to compare.
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@tim_g said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@scottalanmiller said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
and when you do BtrFS and ZFS are definitely more likely to be the case over EXT4, and JFS2, GFS2, OCFS, and others will compete heavily with EXT4.
I almost did BtrFS + XFS (Btrfs in place of LVM) on my main laptop. I still want to somewhere just to compare.
I didn't even know that it had the hooks to allow that.
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@scottalanmiller said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@tim_g said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@scottalanmiller said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
and when you do BtrFS and ZFS are definitely more likely to be the case over EXT4, and JFS2, GFS2, OCFS, and others will compete heavily with EXT4.
I almost did BtrFS + XFS (Btrfs in place of LVM) on my main laptop. I still want to somewhere just to compare.
I didn't even know that it had the hooks to allow that.
Yeah, when installing Fedora, if you select custom partitioning, you can select from the dropdown to use BtrFS instead of LVM, and you can still use XFS.
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@tim_g said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@scottalanmiller said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@tim_g said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@scottalanmiller said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
and when you do BtrFS and ZFS are definitely more likely to be the case over EXT4, and JFS2, GFS2, OCFS, and others will compete heavily with EXT4.
I almost did BtrFS + XFS (Btrfs in place of LVM) on my main laptop. I still want to somewhere just to compare.
I didn't even know that it had the hooks to allow that.
Yeah, when installing Fedora, if you select custom partitioning, you can select from the dropdown to use BtrFS instead of LVM, and you can still use XFS.
I never noticed that. Interesting.
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@scottalanmiller said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@fuznutz04 said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@scottalanmiller said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@black3dynamite said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@tim_g said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
Why EXT4?
Is there something wrong using ext4 instead of xfs besides Red Hat/CentOS using it by default?
As with everything, reverse the question - is there something right about it? XFS is faster and more stable. What does EXT4 have going for it? EXT4 is not a bad filesystem, but "not bad" isn't a reason to choose a filesystem. Which one is best for your environment? I don't know any server environments where EXT4 is good enough to be considered - because it would have to be meaningfully better than XFS in some area for that to be useful.
Looks like I just need to read up on ext4 vs xfs.
Or just move on to XFS. It's a super rare case that you want anything else. Basically, always choose XFS unless you have a very clear reason to do something else. You'd have an edge case with your storage to want to even look at alternatives, and when you do BtrFS and ZFS are definitely more likely to be the case over EXT4, and JFS2, GFS2, OCFS, and others will compete heavily with EXT4.
Sure, but without reading up on all of those, he'll never know when to use something other than XFS, which is all I think he was getting at.
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@dashrender said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@scottalanmiller said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@fuznutz04 said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@scottalanmiller said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@black3dynamite said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
@tim_g said in KVM on Fedora 26 Server edition:
Why EXT4?
Is there something wrong using ext4 instead of xfs besides Red Hat/CentOS using it by default?
As with everything, reverse the question - is there something right about it? XFS is faster and more stable. What does EXT4 have going for it? EXT4 is not a bad filesystem, but "not bad" isn't a reason to choose a filesystem. Which one is best for your environment? I don't know any server environments where EXT4 is good enough to be considered - because it would have to be meaningfully better than XFS in some area for that to be useful.
Looks like I just need to read up on ext4 vs xfs.
Or just move on to XFS. It's a super rare case that you want anything else. Basically, always choose XFS unless you have a very clear reason to do something else. You'd have an edge case with your storage to want to even look at alternatives, and when you do BtrFS and ZFS are definitely more likely to be the case over EXT4, and JFS2, GFS2, OCFS, and others will compete heavily with EXT4.
Sure, but without reading up on all of those, he'll never know when to use something other than XFS, which is all I think he was getting at.
The point being, it’s a ridiculously special case. Approaching never.
