Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?
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@creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:
@dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware
Um No.
Stop now.
Re-evaluate your needs.
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@creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:
@creayt Also forgot to bring up that Raid 0 also gives me way more capacity right so it'd give me terabyte(s) more before I had to scale to extra hardware? Can't remember how much Raid 5 subtracts.
RAID 5 removed one drive. So you'd buy one extra drive for each node. This would, in theory, give you a read performance boost, and a write deficit.
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@creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:
@dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware
Yep. This is a bad idea.
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@creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:
@jaredbusch For Server 2016 right? Saw that, pretty annoying. But I like the idea of breaking things up into containers eventually so I may bite the bullet. At the moment I have 1 2012 R2 license which I think works for the decacore server w/ no extra licensing.
THat's correct.
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About to benchmark a 5-drive Raid 5 to compare it to the Raid 0 results I've benchmarked so far. Does anyone remember if you're supposed to create the VD w/ a size that's smaller than the full capacity to redeem the benefits of over provisioning or not?
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@dustinb3403 ? Not sure what you mean/are referring to.
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@creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:
@dustinb3403 ? Not sure what you mean/are referring to.
You ALWAYS virtualize, unless you have a specific reason to not. i.e. can't think of anything.
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@dashrender If anyone can name a single benefit of virtualizing given my description of this project's goals and needs I'll be very impressed.
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@creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:
@dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware
The overhead of a hypervisor shouldn't even be a consideration. There is literally 0 benefit to doing this. You could use a hypervisor and have a true HA setup so if a node takes a nose dive, everything is instantly (I mean instantly) up on another node.
You wouldn't even have time to blink.
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The performance hit from virtualization will be so many times less than the RAID 5 penalty, you won't notice it.
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@creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:
@dashrender If anyone can name a single benefit of virtualizing given my description of this project's goals and needs I'll be very impressed.
easier backups.
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@dashrender Some reasons not to for this project:
Performance goals
Time to restore a failed server would increase w/ virtualization ( extra thing to configure )
One less thing to manage
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@creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:
@dashrender If anyone can name a single benefit of virtualizing given my description of this project's goals and needs I'll be very impressed.
Easier failover to another machine.
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@dashrender Would actually be less-easy failover in this instance, no?
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It's free to virtualize.
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@creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:
@dashrender Would actually be less-easy failover in this instance, no?
It would be easier to fail-over when you are virtual.
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@dashrender "Easier backups", how so? Seems less-easy.
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@creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:
@dashrender Some reasons not to for this project:
Performance goals
Time to restore a failed server would be reduced
One less thing to manage
Easier scaling licensewisePerformance will be negligible at worst.
why would restore be longer?
I suppose it would be one less thing to manage - but it's not like it's that hard to manage
eh? uh - nope! Windows licenses exactly the same on VM or hardware. -
@creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:
@dashrender "Easier backups", how so? Seems less-easy.
OK stop being dense, take a step back and consider entire platform backup operations.
How are you planning to do this with the existing physical system?
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@creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:
@dashrender "Easier backups", how so? Seems less-easy.
Can't be less easy. Can be the same or easier. You lose nothing, only gain options.
