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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
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      @stuartjordan said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

      @scottalanmiller Do you think this will not go ahead then? or will it be a case they will not block but make it illegal to use?

      I think something will go ahead. Blocking low hanging fruit. VPN is pretty tough to block - at least without crippling the Internet completely. As long as you have SSH and HTTPS, you have super common VPNs everywhere.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

        @stuartjordan said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

        @scottalanmiller Do you think this will not go ahead then? or will it be a case they will not block but make it illegal to use?

        I think something will go ahead. Blocking low hanging fruit. VPN is pretty tough to block - at least without crippling the Internet completely. As long as you have SSH and HTTPS, you have super common VPNs everywhere.

        What are the chances they will make port 443 (HTTPS) illegal? Of course you could do HTTPS over port 80, but please read into the spirit of my question.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @dashrender said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

          @scottalanmiller said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

          @stuartjordan said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

          @scottalanmiller Do you think this will not go ahead then? or will it be a case they will not block but make it illegal to use?

          I think something will go ahead. Blocking low hanging fruit. VPN is pretty tough to block - at least without crippling the Internet completely. As long as you have SSH and HTTPS, you have super common VPNs everywhere.

          What are the chances they will make port 443 (HTTPS) illegal? Of course you could do HTTPS over port 80, but please read into the spirit of my question.

          I'd say 50/50, but that's purely my own guess.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

            @dashrender said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

            @scottalanmiller said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

            @stuartjordan said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

            @scottalanmiller Do you think this will not go ahead then? or will it be a case they will not block but make it illegal to use?

            I think something will go ahead. Blocking low hanging fruit. VPN is pretty tough to block - at least without crippling the Internet completely. As long as you have SSH and HTTPS, you have super common VPNs everywhere.

            What are the chances they will make port 443 (HTTPS) illegal? Of course you could do HTTPS over port 80, but please read into the spirit of my question.

            I'd say 50/50, but that's purely my own guess.

            Right - so say they do.. now online banking, shopping, etc becomes HORRIBLY dangerous!

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            • CloudKnightC
              CloudKnight @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @dashrender - going backwards rather then forward.

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              • CloudKnightC
                CloudKnight
                last edited by

                The Chinese government are already using deep packet inspection to identify VPN protocols being used, they would also block IP addresses to known and established VPN providers.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @dashrender said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                  @scottalanmiller said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                  @dashrender said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                  @scottalanmiller said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                  @stuartjordan said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                  @scottalanmiller Do you think this will not go ahead then? or will it be a case they will not block but make it illegal to use?

                  I think something will go ahead. Blocking low hanging fruit. VPN is pretty tough to block - at least without crippling the Internet completely. As long as you have SSH and HTTPS, you have super common VPNs everywhere.

                  What are the chances they will make port 443 (HTTPS) illegal? Of course you could do HTTPS over port 80, but please read into the spirit of my question.

                  I'd say 50/50, but that's purely my own guess.

                  Right - so say they do.. now online banking, shopping, etc becomes HORRIBLY dangerous!

                  Every resident of China who has access to a computer is given an email account by the chinese government.

                  My exchange student has one, its just a bunch of [email protected].

                  So all online activity in the country is already monitored, this is just another step.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @dustinb3403 said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                    @dashrender said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                    @scottalanmiller said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                    @dashrender said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                    @scottalanmiller said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                    @stuartjordan said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                    @scottalanmiller Do you think this will not go ahead then? or will it be a case they will not block but make it illegal to use?

                    I think something will go ahead. Blocking low hanging fruit. VPN is pretty tough to block - at least without crippling the Internet completely. As long as you have SSH and HTTPS, you have super common VPNs everywhere.

                    What are the chances they will make port 443 (HTTPS) illegal? Of course you could do HTTPS over port 80, but please read into the spirit of my question.

                    I'd say 50/50, but that's purely my own guess.

                    Right - so say they do.. now online banking, shopping, etc becomes HORRIBLY dangerous!

                    Every resident of China who has access to a computer is given an email account by the chinese government.

                    My exchange student has one, its just a bunch of [email protected].

                    So all online activity in the country is already monitored, this is just another step.

                    What prevents them from not using it?

                    Are they also required to install a cert into the certificate store so China can break into all SSL traffic?

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                      @dashrender said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                      @dustinb3403 said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                      @dashrender said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                      @scottalanmiller said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                      @dashrender said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                      @scottalanmiller said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                      @stuartjordan said in China to block VPNs by February 2018:

                      @scottalanmiller Do you think this will not go ahead then? or will it be a case they will not block but make it illegal to use?

                      I think something will go ahead. Blocking low hanging fruit. VPN is pretty tough to block - at least without crippling the Internet completely. As long as you have SSH and HTTPS, you have super common VPNs everywhere.

                      What are the chances they will make port 443 (HTTPS) illegal? Of course you could do HTTPS over port 80, but please read into the spirit of my question.

                      I'd say 50/50, but that's purely my own guess.

                      Right - so say they do.. now online banking, shopping, etc becomes HORRIBLY dangerous!

                      Every resident of China who has access to a computer is given an email account by the chinese government.

                      My exchange student has one, its just a bunch of [email protected].

                      So all online activity in the country is already monitored, this is just another step.

                      What prevents them from not using it?

                      I honestly have no idea, I asked why not use gmail or yahoo and got "to lazy" as an answer... so that could be it. It could also be those services are simply banned. Honestly no clue.

                      Are they also required to install a cert into the certificate store so China can break into all SSL traffic?

                      Don't know here either.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        wow - too lazy... the apathy... makes you want to send them packing..

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