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    • bigbearB
      bigbear
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      Yeah again, no clue why its needed. So do you buy a license to put the unifi controller in the cloud? I thought the key was more a of a license pack.

      Just didn't want to leave the key behind as the store is a 30 minutes drive for me.

      ~Andy

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @bigbear
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        @bigbear said in Ubiquiti Unifi Key needed?:

        Yeah again, no clue why its needed. So do you buy a license to put the unifi controller in the cloud? I thought the key was more a of a license pack.

        Just didn't want to leave the key behind as the store is a 30 minutes drive for me.

        ~Andy

        No, the key is just hardware. No license needed, the controller is free.

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        • NashBrydgesN
          NashBrydges
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          Yeah no key needed and no license. I'm running mine locally on a Ubuntu VM but I'm finding that after updates and reboot, the damn mongo db tends to corrupt so I have to run the db clean up to get it fixed. A pain in the ass that I'm told can be completely avoided if you use the CloudKey instead.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @NashBrydges
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            @NashBrydges said in Ubiquiti Unifi Key needed?:

            Yeah no key needed and no license. I'm running mine locally on a Ubuntu VM but I'm finding that after updates and reboot, the damn mongo db tends to corrupt so I have to run the db clean up to get it fixed. A pain in the ass that I'm told can be completely avoided if you use the CloudKey instead.

            how does teh cloud key avoid that, I wonder.

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            • NashBrydgesN
              NashBrydges
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              Tbh, I couldn't tell you for sure since I've never used the CloudKey. All I know is I'm getting annoyed with having to worry about the controller starting up after every upgrade.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @NashBrydges
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                @NashBrydges said in Ubiquiti Unifi Key needed?:

                Tbh, I couldn't tell you for sure since I've never used the CloudKey. All I know is I'm getting annoyed with having to worry about the controller starting up after every upgrade.

                Something seems weird, I need to look into that. MongoDB is pretty reliable. Is it maybe running during an upgrade when it should be shut down or something?

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                • bigbearB
                  bigbear @NashBrydges
                  last edited by

                  @NashBrydges said in Ubiquiti Unifi Key needed?:

                  Yeah no key needed and no license. I'm running mine locally on a Ubuntu VM but I'm finding that after updates and reboot, the damn mongo db tends to corrupt so I have to run the db clean up to get it fixed. A pain in the ass that I'm told can be completely avoided if you use the CloudKey instead.

                  Who told you the cloud key solves this?

                  Is it that the key runs the controller? So lost...

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                    @bigbear said in Ubiquiti Unifi Key needed?:

                    @NashBrydges said in Ubiquiti Unifi Key needed?:

                    Yeah no key needed and no license. I'm running mine locally on a Ubuntu VM but I'm finding that after updates and reboot, the damn mongo db tends to corrupt so I have to run the db clean up to get it fixed. A pain in the ass that I'm told can be completely avoided if you use the CloudKey instead.

                    Who told you the cloud key solves this?

                    Is it that the key runs the controller? So lost...

                    The "key" is just a tiny Raspberry Pi like SMC with the same software installed on it that you normally run in a VM. It's nothing special or good.

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                    • bigbearB
                      bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller this is description I needed to know I hate this key, thank you.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                        @bigbear said in Ubiquiti Unifi Key needed?:

                        @scottalanmiller this is description I needed to know I hate this key, thank you.

                        LOL, yup. It's a very silly idea.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
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                          But people begged for a prebuilt standalone device. So they made one to sell them.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti Unifi Key needed?:

                            @NashBrydges said in Ubiquiti Unifi Key needed?:

                            Tbh, I couldn't tell you for sure since I've never used the CloudKey. All I know is I'm getting annoyed with having to worry about the controller starting up after every upgrade.

                            Something seems weird, I need to look into that. MongoDB is pretty reliable. Is it maybe running during an upgrade when it should be shut down or something?

                            I have never had this happen. I have upgraded my controller from Ubuntu 15.10 to 16.04 to 16.10 to 17.04 over the years.

                            And the controller itself from 3.x something to current.

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                            • dbeatoD
                              dbeato @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch Agreed, In 4 years deploying Unifi APs and having my main controller for multiple APs customers and DVRs in AWS I have not had this issue. Usually the issue I have is more on the space due to keeping data settings.

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                              • dbeatoD
                                dbeato @bigbear
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                                @bigbear The Cloud Key is like a small $2.50 or $5.00 VM from Vultr and can have an added SD media card that essentially runs the Unifi Controller you get for free. It connects to the Unifi Could (Which since version 4.7 or so you have access as well with the controller). They also have cloud controllers that they sell as well that you can customize for hotspots too.
                                https://account.ubnt.com/login

                                See an old discussion on this:
                                https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Cloud-Key-vs-Cloud-Controller/td-p/1467105

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                                • brianlittlejohnB
                                  brianlittlejohn @NashBrydges
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                                  @NashBrydges said in Ubiquiti Unifi Key needed?:

                                  Yeah no key needed and no license. I'm running mine locally on a Ubuntu VM but I'm finding that after updates and reboot, the damn mongo db tends to corrupt so I have to run the db clean up to get it fixed. A pain in the ass that I'm told can be completely avoided if you use the CloudKey instead.

                                  The only issue I had was with this last kernel update that came out Monday, but if you looked at the forums they had a workaround same day, and a fix published Wednesday.

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                                  • NashBrydgesN
                                    NashBrydges @brianlittlejohn
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                                    @brianlittlejohn Decided to blow mine away and rebuild then ran into the issue you mention after not being able to access the controller. nice find on your other thread.

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