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Wow, Just Wow....
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After translating what PSX said into slightly less abrasive language, he's absolutely right. Even if your employer is saying it's fine with them that you were late again, don't think that they are going to forget it. You now have 2 strikes against you in not even 2 weeks of work. Every employer I've ever had would have probably dismissed you on the spot after showing up hours late without calling in for hours after you were supposed to be there, especially your 2nd week on the job. That's a no call - no show. If I were you, I would be kissing as$, doing exactly what I'm told, and not rocking the boat, as well as making sure you're early from now on.
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Seriously, AJ. Play it safe, ok?
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@Dominica , I have been showing up early. However, the person I generally report to doesn't show up til 10, so showing up early only does so much good. I get here a few minutes before my shift but there isn't much point, at this point, in showing up 30 minutes early, for example.
@Huw3481 , I am trying. It was just a bad couple of days. Not much I can do about it.
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This is probably a bad time to point out that I went out drinking with SAM for about 12 hours, left his at 6am and still made work (albeit an hour late) but I did let them know in advance.
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@Huw3481 said:
This is probably a bad time to point out that I went out drinking with SAM for about 12 hours, left his at 6am and still made work (albeit an hour late) but I did let them know in advance.
I hadn't slept soundly in months. My body finally burned out and shut down. It felt wonderful.
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@Huw3481 said:
This is probably a bad time to point out that I went out drinking with SAM for about 12 hours, left his at 6am and still made work (albeit an hour late) but I did let them know in advance.
I've done that before. Missed the midnight train in Tokyo once, next one was a 5am. That was probably the worst day of my life. Great night though!
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@ajstringham said:
@Huw3481 said:
This is probably a bad time to point out that I went out drinking with SAM for about 12 hours, left his at 6am and still made work (albeit an hour late) but I did let them know in advance.
I hadn't slept soundly in months. My body finally burned out and shut down. It felt wonderful.
Sometimes your body just goes into f*ck-it-sleep mode. I've had that happen a few times in the past man, hopefully you're back in step!
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@MattKing said:
@ajstringham said:
@Huw3481 said:
This is probably a bad time to point out that I went out drinking with SAM for about 12 hours, left his at 6am and still made work (albeit an hour late) but I did let them know in advance.
I hadn't slept soundly in months. My body finally burned out and shut down. It felt wonderful.
Sometimes your body just goes into f*ck-it-sleep mode. I've had that happen a few times in the past man, hopefully you're back in step!
I've actually been waking up more normally. For the longest time, I wake up as alert as I was at noon the day before. It's the weirdest feeling. The problem is that it was never passing. I wasn't sleeping as my body was never shutting down. Finally, it did just basically say f*ck it, I'm going to sleep. Not much I can do about that.
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@ajstringham said:
@MattKing said:
@ajstringham said:
@Huw3481 said:
This is probably a bad time to point out that I went out drinking with SAM for about 12 hours, left his at 6am and still made work (albeit an hour late) but I did let them know in advance.
I hadn't slept soundly in months. My body finally burned out and shut down. It felt wonderful.
Sometimes your body just goes into f*ck-it-sleep mode. I've had that happen a few times in the past man, hopefully you're back in step!
I've actually been waking up more normally. For the longest time, I wake up as alert as I was at noon the day before. It's the weirdest feeling. The problem is that it was never passing. I wasn't sleeping as my body was never shutting down. Finally, it did just basically say f*ck it, I'm going to sleep. Not much I can do about that.
I've had that happen before. For me it was caffeine after 5-6pm and not drinking or playing on electronics after 10pm made me get back in sync. The electronics thing was hard, but i started waking up earlier naturally (5-6am) and just moved work to the morning.
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@Dominica said:
After translating what PSX said into slightly less abrasive language, he's absolutely right. Even if your employer is saying it's fine with them that you were late again, don't think that they are going to forget it. You now have 2 strikes against you in not even 2 weeks of work. Every employer I've ever had would have probably dismissed you on the spot after showing up hours late without calling in for hours after you were supposed to be there, especially your 2nd week on the job. That's a no call - no show. If I were you, I would be kissing as$, doing exactly what I'm told, and not rocking the boat, as well as making sure you're early from now on.
Agreed. I mean don't get me wrong. I've been late to job by 5-10mins before but even then I always called it. It was never a big deal because my boss knew I was reliable and stayed over and worked through lunches all the time to get things done. But hours is a lot, especially with no call in. I know people (even has been news stories) about people being fired when not calling in even with medical emergencies, That's extreme of course. But with most companies with no call in you'd be fired on the spot - especially in the first 6 months - 1 year of a job.
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Well...
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I feel for you Seiko. I had similar issues in my younger days, when I was single and didn't have anybody else looking out for me. I eventually found ways to make sure I got up and to work on time. Some things to try.
Multiple alarms, you need to have to get up to turn it off. I know some hard sleepers that have the old timey alarms with the bells.
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Go to sleep at a reasonable hour. If you aren't getting 8-9 hours of sleep, start doing it.
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Don't drink caffeine after at least noon. That stuff messes up your sleep big time. Any stimulants should be cut back if not totally avoided.
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Work on a routine. Sleeping super late on weekends makes it really hard to get up on time on a Monday. Try your best to go to bed/wake up at the same time every day.
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Exercise. While I wouldn't work out right before bed, a tired body sleeps better.
These are from experience. I lost a job as a youngster from being late to work a couple of times. While it's understandable that people struggle with things like this, it is 100% your responsibility to work it out. Your employer has to make reasonable accommodations to you, and allowing you to come in at noon isn't one.
As far as your getting bent out of shape by responses to your post, you chose to post it, nobody asked for that information. Share at your own risk.
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AJ, are you a shift worker? Hourly paid - in that case, coming in early and staying late probably aren't really in the cards, not to any real benefit anyway - unless the company is OK with OT.
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@Dashrender said:
AJ, are you a shift worker? Hourly paid - in that case, coming in early and staying late probably aren't really in the cards, not to any real benefit anyway - unless the company is OK with OT.
I am a shift worker, and paid hourly, so yeah.
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@RobQ said:
I feel for you Seiko. I had similar issues in my younger days, when I was single and didn't have anybody else looking out for me. I eventually found ways to make sure I got up and to work on time. Some things to try.
Multiple alarms, you need to have to get up to turn it off. I know some hard sleepers that have the old timey alarms with the bells.
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Go to sleep at a reasonable hour. If you aren't getting 8-9 hours of sleep, start doing it.
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Don't drink caffeine after at least noon. That stuff messes up your sleep big time. Any stimulants should be cut back if not totally avoided.
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Work on a routine. Sleeping super late on weekends makes it really hard to get up on time on a Monday. Try your best to go to bed/wake up at the same time every day.
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Exercise. While I wouldn't work out right before bed, a tired body sleeps better.
These are from experience. I lost a job as a youngster from being late to work a couple of times. While it's understandable that people struggle with things like this, it is 100% your responsibility to work it out. Your employer has to make reasonable accommodations to you, and allowing you to come in at noon isn't one.
As far as your getting bent out of shape by responses to your post, you chose to post it, nobody asked for that information. Share at your own risk.
Thanks for the advice.
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@ajstringham Have you ever considered counseling? When I can't sleep, or do things to avoid sleeping it is generally because I'm fundamentally unhappy about something I don't want to think about. So I stay up gaming, or surfing, or reading, or... just so I'm so exhausted that I finally fall asleep without any of that brain-shutting-down-thinking-about-crap time period. I realize I'm not on some of the meds you are, and that definitely contributes, but something to ponder.
And counseling is not something bad. I know a lot of people, me included, look upon others as somehow not good enough if they had to do counseling. The truth could not be further from that. The reality is that there are many issues that we are incapable of dealing with internally and need outside help. There are a lot of scenarios where that help cannot come from someone we know.
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@Kelly said:
@ajstringham Have you ever considered counseling? When I can't sleep, or do things to avoid sleeping it is generally because I'm fundamentally unhappy about something I don't want to think about. So I stay up gaming, or surfing, or reading, or... just so I'm so exhausted that I finally fall asleep without any of that brain-shutting-down-thinking-about-crap time period. I realize I'm not on some of the meds you are, and that definitely contributes, but something to ponder.
And counseling is not something bad. I know a lot of people, me included, look upon others as somehow not good enough if they had to do counseling. The truth could not be further from that. The reality is that there are many issues that we are incapable of dealing with internally and need outside help. There are a lot of scenarios where that help cannot come from someone we know.
I am in a position that most counselors would be lost on me (don't ask, just trust me). I did go to a counselor for awhile, many years ago. A good friend of our family, who was in a situation to understand ours. Again, don't ask. It helped some. I'd be hard pressed to find someone who would do much good now.
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@Kelly , I'm not opposed to the idea. Just most counselors wouldn't help.
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@ajstringham said:
@Kelly , I'm not opposed to the idea. Just most counselors wouldn't help.
Fair enough. You have to be in the right place, with a good counselor (doesn't necessarily have to have specific background on you) for it to work. It took me years before I was in the place.
