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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @IRJ
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

      @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

      @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

      @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

      Group Policy is not limited to domains. You can use Group Policy manually at each machine.

      That's right, but at when you are deploying it with scripts it's considered local policy. Even though you can deploy it just as effectively as you would with Group policy.

      Group Policy deploys it locally with scripts, too 😉

      It works the same way, but according to Microsoft's terminology it is not the same thing.

      According to two separate introduction articles to Group Policy, Microsoft defines it as utilizing AD. Until you utilize AD, it is really just local policy that is scripted.

      https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh147307(v=ws.10).aspx

      https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742376.aspx

      Even Wikipedia's definition clearly defines that Group Policy uses AD

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_Policy

      Actually that Wikipedia links still calls it Group Policy, just "Local Group Policy" when run locally. But it makes it clear that it is still group policy in the name.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @IRJ
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        @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

        @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

        @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

        @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

        Group Policy is not limited to domains. You can use Group Policy manually at each machine.

        That's right, but at when you are deploying it with scripts it's considered local policy. Even though you can deploy it just as effectively as you would with Group policy.

        Group Policy deploys it locally with scripts, too 😉

        It works the same way, but according to Microsoft's terminology it is not the same thing.

        According to two separate introduction articles to Group Policy, Microsoft defines it as utilizing AD. Until you utilize AD, it is really just local policy that is scripted.

        https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh147307(v=ws.10).aspx

        https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742376.aspx

        Even Wikipedia's definition clearly defines that Group Policy uses AD

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_Policy

        This is the fuzziness that I've been having even since Scott started saying that AD and GP have nothing to do with each other. While I do understand their are each their own components, but from an MS POV, they are part of a collective of things that most Windows admins consider one in the same.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @openit
          last edited by

          Back on topic. The OP was clearly not looking to implement dev ops. He was after a simple script to set local GPO to enforce SRP.

          @openit said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

          Probably we can push script/app with ESET ERA6 to all pcs ? if possible, otherwise, we will do it manually.

          This is one of the better guides I know about to do this with powershell. You could make a ps1 script to push out with ESET.

          http://brandonpadgett.com/powershell/Local-gpo-powershell/

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

            @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

            @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

            Group Policy is not limited to domains. You can use Group Policy manually at each machine.

            That's right, but at when you are deploying it with scripts it's considered local policy. Even though you can deploy it just as effectively as you would with Group policy.

            Group Policy deploys it locally with scripts, too 😉

            It works the same way, but according to Microsoft's terminology it is not the same thing.

            According to two separate introduction articles to Group Policy, Microsoft defines it as utilizing AD. Until you utilize AD, it is really just local policy that is scripted.

            https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh147307(v=ws.10).aspx

            https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742376.aspx

            Even Wikipedia's definition clearly defines that Group Policy uses AD

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_Policy

            This is the fuzziness that I've been having even since Scott started saying that AD and GP have nothing to do with each other. While I do understand their are each their own components, but from an MS POV, they are part of a collective of things that most Windows admins consider one in the same.

            Yes, it appears that Microsoft really wants to say that Local Group Policy is not Group Policy. I'll concede that point. From an IT perspective, though, the thing called "Group Policy" functionally exists without AD, but technically cannot have the name.

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            • IRJI
              IRJ @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

              @Dashrender said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

              @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

              @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

              Group Policy is not limited to domains. You can use Group Policy manually at each machine.

              That's right, but at when you are deploying it with scripts it's considered local policy. Even though you can deploy it just as effectively as you would with Group policy.

              Group Policy deploys it locally with scripts, too 😉

              It works the same way, but according to Microsoft's terminology it is not the same thing.

              According to two separate introduction articles to Group Policy, Microsoft defines it as utilizing AD. Until you utilize AD, it is really just local policy that is scripted.

              https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh147307(v=ws.10).aspx

              https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742376.aspx

              Even Wikipedia's definition clearly defines that Group Policy uses AD

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_Policy

              This is the fuzziness that I've been having even since Scott started saying that AD and GP have nothing to do with each other. While I do understand their are each their own components, but from an MS POV, they are part of a collective of things that most Windows admins consider one in the same.

              Yes, it appears that Microsoft really wants to say that Local Group Policy is not Group Policy. I'll concede that point. From an IT perspective, though, the thing called "Group Policy" functionally exists without AD, but technically cannot have the name.

              Idk you might be right....

              https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc725970(v=ws.11).aspx

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                @Dashrender said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                Group Policy is not limited to domains. You can use Group Policy manually at each machine.

                That's right, but at when you are deploying it with scripts it's considered local policy. Even though you can deploy it just as effectively as you would with Group policy.

                Group Policy deploys it locally with scripts, too 😉

                It works the same way, but according to Microsoft's terminology it is not the same thing.

                According to two separate introduction articles to Group Policy, Microsoft defines it as utilizing AD. Until you utilize AD, it is really just local policy that is scripted.

                https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh147307(v=ws.10).aspx

                https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742376.aspx

                Even Wikipedia's definition clearly defines that Group Policy uses AD

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_Policy

                This is the fuzziness that I've been having even since Scott started saying that AD and GP have nothing to do with each other. While I do understand their are each their own components, but from an MS POV, they are part of a collective of things that most Windows admins consider one in the same.

                Yes, it appears that Microsoft really wants to say that Local Group Policy is not Group Policy. I'll concede that point. From an IT perspective, though, the thing called "Group Policy" functionally exists without AD, but technically cannot have the name.

                What I don't know is, does it exist in the home edition?

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ
                  last edited by

                  One thing is certain, Microsoft is not clear on the definition.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                    @Dashrender said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                    @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                    @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                    Group Policy is not limited to domains. You can use Group Policy manually at each machine.

                    That's right, but at when you are deploying it with scripts it's considered local policy. Even though you can deploy it just as effectively as you would with Group policy.

                    Group Policy deploys it locally with scripts, too 😉

                    It works the same way, but according to Microsoft's terminology it is not the same thing.

                    According to two separate introduction articles to Group Policy, Microsoft defines it as utilizing AD. Until you utilize AD, it is really just local policy that is scripted.

                    https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh147307(v=ws.10).aspx

                    https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742376.aspx

                    Even Wikipedia's definition clearly defines that Group Policy uses AD

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_Policy

                    This is the fuzziness that I've been having even since Scott started saying that AD and GP have nothing to do with each other. While I do understand their are each their own components, but from an MS POV, they are part of a collective of things that most Windows admins consider one in the same.

                    Yes, it appears that Microsoft really wants to say that Local Group Policy is not Group Policy. I'll concede that point. From an IT perspective, though, the thing called "Group Policy" functionally exists without AD, but technically cannot have the name.

                    What I don't know is, does it exist in the home edition?

                    Yes. It always has.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @IRJ
                      last edited by

                      @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                      One thing is certain, Microsoft is not clear on the definition.

                      🙂 Or they believe that "Local Group Policy" is not a form of "Group Policy" which seems... intentionally misleading?

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                      • openitO
                        openit
                        last edited by

                        Oops, this many posts till I came back 🙂

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @openit
                          last edited by

                          @openit said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                          Oops, this many posts till I came back 🙂

                          We all get busy. 😉

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