ML
    • Recent
    • Categories
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Register
    • Login

    Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved IT Discussion
    buyvm
    30 Posts 4 Posters 2.1k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • A
      Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      This post is deleted!
      scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • A
        Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        This post is deleted!
        scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
          last edited by

          @aaronstuder said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

          @scottalanmiller said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

          @aaronstuder said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

          So how does a company pirate Windows, even openly advertise it, and never get caught?

          We already discussed that. There is no company info so we don't know their jurisdiction.

          It's Canada.

          How do you know? We talked in the other thread about how that information wasn't available. They don't tell anything about their company anywhere.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Here is the company in question:

            https://frantech.ca/

            No info anywhere.

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
              last edited by

              @aaronstuder said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

              @scottalanmiller Web Hosting Talk, and LowEndBox Topics.

              They talk about the Windows slices there, going back to 2010?

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                The site says that the server licensing is included for free for server 2008R2 and server 2012R2.

                For only $3.50 a month? How?

                scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

                  @aaronstuder said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

                  @aaronstuder said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

                  So how does a company pirate Windows, even openly advertise it, and never get caught?

                  We already discussed that. There is no company info so we don't know their jurisdiction.

                  It's Canada.

                  How do you know?

                  He's assuming because the site is frantech.ca (which is canada). But the FBI can certainly reach canadian webmasters

                  scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

                    The site says that the server licensing is included for free for server 2008R2 and server 2012R2.

                    For only $3.50 a month? How?

                    $25/year. Even less. That's just over $2/mo for a product that costs something around $8/mo to license. That means that every VPS is a $6/mo donation IF the base VPS was zero cost, which isn't even remotely true.

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

                      @aaronstuder said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

                      @aaronstuder said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

                      So how does a company pirate Windows, even openly advertise it, and never get caught?

                      We already discussed that. There is no company info so we don't know their jurisdiction.

                      It's Canada.

                      How do you know?

                      He's assuming because the site is frantech.ca (which is canada). But the FBI can certainly reach canadian webmasters

                      We covered already that the site was there but that we don't know where the company is registered. There is only one employee (according to the site) and he could be hiding anywhere.

                      I mean it might be legit and we could be just missing something huge. But absolutely nothing makes that seem likely. One person, too good to be true pricing, zero contact details, no way to find the company, no jurisdiction listed, nothing. And the company website is... essentially blank.

                      If BuyVM has info as to why they are able to be so impossibly cheap, at a fraction of the cost of what they are giving away, hey awesome they are free to post here. We'd email them but, you know, they don't have email.

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Their Facebook page says that they are an ISP in California, rather than Canada. A bit confusing, maybe they don't know how the .ca domain works?

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          I think we should just enjoy this windfall and all move our systems to BuyVM.

                          At only $3.50 a month we can't afford not to....

                          c867d732ec55ddcd6e1cd01993d903b1.jpg

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • NerdyDadN
                            NerdyDad
                            last edited by NerdyDad

                            I'm thinking maybe some kind of fly-by-night scam shell that is trying to lure those who don't know IT to take their money and close up shop.

                            Why would somebody advertise protection against Godzilla? That is just bad marketing.

                            Geographically safe of earthquakes and floods. -This is just tempting God too much.

                            scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
                              last edited by

                              @NerdyDad said in Is BuyVM Pricing Too Good To Be True:

                              I'm thinking maybe some kind of fly-by-night scam shell that is trying to lure those who don't know IT to take their money and close up shop.

                              Cant quite be fly by night, their social media is way too active for way too long for that. That Cloud@Cost pulled this same stunt and did it by passing all liability onto the customer makes it hit home way too much that that is just too easy to do.

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                https://mangolassi.it/topic/4842/why-you-cannot-effectively-run-windows-on-cloudatcost

                                It's not exactly the same, but worth pointing out that we are going back over known ground here.

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Obviously they could do things like get HUGE procs, license by proc, limit WIndows users to Windows hosts.... but I just don't see the math working out. At a quarter core per VM, you just can't get enough VMs on there.

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Best case, they just aren't making any money and that's scary. You don't want your cloud host up and vanishing overnight. That they are lacking basic corporate info, like jurisdiction and contact info, is super worrisome.

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • 1
                                    • 2
                                    • 2 / 2
                                    • First post
                                      Last post