Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer
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That sounds like an exciting path but I have no experience doing that with Google in the certification realm. There are some of us (like me and @dominica) that have experience supporting IT in a K12 educational setting including working with teachers.
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I assume you're referring to working with Google Apps? What kinds of things do the teachers use Google for Education for? Also, are you looking to go for more of a training-style role, or more of a support/administration of the infrastructure role?
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@thanksajdotcom I really want to look more on the training/support side of things. The administration/infrastructure is something I'm willing too look into. But I'd rather be working with people in a real life setting.
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@leahcrowell22 said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@thanksajdotcom I really want to look more on the training/support side of things. The administration/infrastructure is something I'm willing too look into. But I'd rather be working with people in a real life setting.
The reason I ask is it's a huge difference in paths. One is much less people-oriented, the other much more, obviously. If you are much more interested in working with people, then a training route is going to be beneficial. However, in a lot of things, having experience in the admin/infrastructure side is important for training, but it also depends who you're training. If you're training end-users, that level of knowledge would be useful for you for comprehension, but outside of basics, you probably wouldn't use it day-to-day. Are you looking to train end-users, or technical users? That will also determine what path you choose.
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I'd agree with AJ here, there is a lot of benefit to being a trainer in an area if you have been working in that area as a non-trainer for a bit.
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@leahcrowell22 said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
My goal is to show teachers,
As someone who supports teachers, bless your heart!
They certainly mean well but many need a helping hand with the tech
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@MattSpeller They do! They try so hard...but it just doesn't click sometimes!
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@thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller my plan had been, where I'm currently located, was to train teachers, and any incoming corporate staff. If that kind of opportunity isn't available, I'd rather be in a classroom, instructing the teachers and staff on how to incorporate technology and the use of the Google Platform into every day teaching.
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@leahcrowell22 said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@MattSpeller They do! They try so hard...but it just doesn't click sometimes!
How every punny of you
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@leahcrowell22 said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller my plan had been, where I'm currently located, was to train teachers, and any incoming corporate staff. If that kind of opportunity isn't available, I'd rather be in a classroom, instructing the teachers and staff on how to incorporate technology and the use of the Google Platform into every day teaching.
So what type of tasks do the teachers accomplish by using Google Apps, compared to what? Just trying to get perspective. Also, had been? Past tense?
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@leahcrowell22 said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@MattSpeller They do! They try so hard...but it just doesn't click sometimes!
Isn't it funny how teachers often struggle with learning. Actually, though, while that is funny, I think that there is a lot of truth to that. People who struggle with learning and need teachers early in life to assist them see teachers as more beneficial and important than those that tend to not need them to learn and so have a tendency towards wanting to become teachers themselves. Just as people who see psychologists often are far more likely to want to purse that as a career than someone who has never needed to see one themselves.
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@thanksajdotcom said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@leahcrowell22 said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller my plan had been, where I'm currently located, was to train teachers, and any incoming corporate staff. If that kind of opportunity isn't available, I'd rather be in a classroom, instructing the teachers and staff on how to incorporate technology and the use of the Google Platform into every day teaching.
So what type of tasks do the teachers accomplish by using Google Apps, compared to what? Just trying to get perspective. Also, had been? Past tense?
Making lesson plans, sharing documents, making presentations, slide decks, giving and and receiving homework assignments or class work, scheduling, email and communications of course, and so forth.
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@scottalanmiller said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@thanksajdotcom said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@leahcrowell22 said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller my plan had been, where I'm currently located, was to train teachers, and any incoming corporate staff. If that kind of opportunity isn't available, I'd rather be in a classroom, instructing the teachers and staff on how to incorporate technology and the use of the Google Platform into every day teaching.
So what type of tasks do the teachers accomplish by using Google Apps, compared to what? Just trying to get perspective. Also, had been? Past tense?
Making lesson plans, sharing documents, making presentations, slide decks, giving and and receiving homework assignments or class work, scheduling, email and communications of course, and so forth.
I didn't ask you
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@scottalanmiller said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@leahcrowell22 said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@MattSpeller They do! They try so hard...but it just doesn't click sometimes!
Isn't it funny how teachers often struggle with learning. Actually, though, while that is funny, I think that there is a lot of truth to that. People who struggle with learning and need teachers early in life to assist them see teachers as more beneficial and important than those that tend to not need them to learn and so have a tendency towards wanting to become teachers themselves. Just as people who see psychologists often are far more likely to want to purse that as a career than someone who has never needed to see one themselves.
I understand where you're coming from. It's similar to the person who has a relative die from some disease, and then goes into that field to study that disease, etc. We gravitate towards what we relate to and connect with.
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@thanksajdotcom said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@scottalanmiller said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@leahcrowell22 said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@MattSpeller They do! They try so hard...but it just doesn't click sometimes!
Isn't it funny how teachers often struggle with learning. Actually, though, while that is funny, I think that there is a lot of truth to that. People who struggle with learning and need teachers early in life to assist them see teachers as more beneficial and important than those that tend to not need them to learn and so have a tendency towards wanting to become teachers themselves. Just as people who see psychologists often are far more likely to want to purse that as a career than someone who has never needed to see one themselves.
I understand where you're coming from. It's similar to the person who has a relative die from some disease, and then goes into that field to study that disease, etc. We gravitate towards what we relate to and connect with.
Or what we feel would offer value, depending on the mindset. Sometimes it's all of the above.
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@scottalanmiller It truly is, I think to be a teacher one must pass a computer literacy course. It needs to be apart of their teaching certification, they need to understand the basics. If they don't the use of technology in the classroom will never reach it's full potential.
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@thanksajdotcom it doesn't mean he's not right
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@scottalanmiller that and more, the way most colleges are taught these days are primarily online, or a blended learning environment that is partially online. I think if teachers understood the way the apps work, for example, the google classroom, they could post all homework on there, then be able to grade and return it without using one piece of paper. Not only are you conserving materials, but the kids are learning the skills that they will need for college. Keeping track of your own due dates, turning things in online, using the tools available to you to enhance the work. There's a million ways to go, but the teachers have to be willing to learn.
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@leahcrowell22 said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@scottalanmiller that and more, the way most colleges are taught these days are primarily online, or a blended learning environment that is partially online. I think if teachers understood the way the apps work, for example, the google classroom, they could post all homework on there, then be able to grade and return it without using one piece of paper. Not only are you conserving materials, but the kids are learning the skills that they will need for college. Keeping track of your own due dates, turning things in online, using the tools available to you to enhance the work. There's a million ways to go, but the teachers have to be willing to learn.
I fully support bringing technology to the classroom in this way. When I was in high school, they were starting to dabble in this but it was still very early days. It's amazing to see how far things have come in just six years, and six years from now, who knows?! But I agree that teachers should be competent in computers. It's just too essential to most functionality nowadays to be something they should be allowed to just "not know".
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@scottalanmiller said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@thanksajdotcom said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@leahcrowell22 said in Google for Education and Google Certified Trainer:
@thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller my plan had been, where I'm currently located, was to train teachers, and any incoming corporate staff. If that kind of opportunity isn't available, I'd rather be in a classroom, instructing the teachers and staff on how to incorporate technology and the use of the Google Platform into every day teaching.
So what type of tasks do the teachers accomplish by using Google Apps, compared to what? Just trying to get perspective. Also, had been? Past tense?
Making lesson plans, sharing documents, making presentations, slide decks, giving and and receiving homework assignments or class work, scheduling, email and communications of course, and so forth.
I'm curious about this - why do lesson plans need to be made after they are made the first year? I can see that perhaps they need a bit of tweaking, updating for new/additional material, but really that should be a 5 min job - yet I always year teachers, those who have been teaching for 20 years, talking about how they have to make new lesson plans for the same class they have been teaching for a decade or more.
