Which comes first Laws or Lawyers
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@Nic said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:
If we include "natural law" then the laws pre-date the lawyers.
Even if we don't.
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Natural law predates the politicians.
Politicians predate man made laws.
Man made laws predate lawyers.
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What about when head grok said "don't touch my mammoth burger" - is he the first politician? Or was that the first law sans politicians/lawyers?
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Head Grok made a statement. Lowbie Grok found out what happened if he touched Grok's hamburger. Everybody listened to Grok next time he said something... That is why Grok is Chief.
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@Nic said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:
What about when head grok said "don't touch my mammoth burger" - is he the first politician? Or was that the first law sans politicians/lawyers?
If you consider it a law, then yes, he'd be a politician. But would it be a law? That implies that laws are just threats and that politicians are just bullies.
Oh wait, I see your point.
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@scottalanmiller said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:
@Nic said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:
What about when head grok said "don't touch my mammoth burger" - is he the first politician? Or was that the first law sans politicians/lawyers?
If you consider it a law, then yes, he'd be a politician. But would it be a law? That implies that laws are just threats and that politicians are just bullies.
Oh wait, I see your point.
He does make a good one, don't he?
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What about the pirate's code, where there are laws that are commonly recognized, but no rulers and no politicians? Anarchism.
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@Nic said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:
What about the pirate's code, where there are laws that are commonly recognized, but no rulers and no politicians? Anarchism.
to be accepted they add to accept them. Someone acting as a polit had to do the accepting. What pirates worked without a leader?
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@Nic said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:
What about the pirate's code, where there are laws that are commonly recognized, but no rulers and no politicians? Anarchism.
It's not really a code... It's more like... guidelines.
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@dafyre said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:
@Nic said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:
What about the pirate's code, where there are laws that are commonly recognized, but no rulers and no politicians? Anarchism.
It's not really a code... It's more like... guidelines.
Right.
Resisting the urge to head down that rabbit hole.
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another thing to think about..
Take away all of the eggs and you do not affect the chickens. But take away the laws and lawyers cease to exist.
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@scottalanmiller said in Which comes first Laws or Lawyers:
another thing to think about..
Take away all of the eggs and you do not affect the chickens. But take away the laws and lawyers cease to exist.
Hmm... This gives me an idea.... Oh wait... it's too late for that.