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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @coliver
      last edited by

      @coliver said

      Probably not. Most likely in Sept-Nov time frame.

      As long as I have been waiting, that is basically any day now. 🙂

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @BRRABill
        last edited by

        @BRRABill said in Remove Non-Existent DC's:

        @coliver said

        Probably not. Most likely in Sept-Nov time frame.

        As long as I have been waiting, that is basically any day now. 🙂

        Anyone have a pool going on if their new file system will be ready by then?

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        • thwrT
          thwr @travisdh1
          last edited by thwr

          @travisdh1 ReFS? Stable but slow and a few missing features AFAIK. Probably in Server 2026. @scottalanmiller and @KOOLER can tell you a few things about this.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
            last edited by

            The new 2003 server I stood up on modern hardware and SSDs was blazing.

            I know ML loves the latest and greatest, but 2003 was a good OS. Still is, security patches notwithstanding.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said in Remove Non-Existent DC's:

              The new 2003 server I stood up on modern hardware and SSDs was blazing.

              I know ML loves the latest and greatest, but 2003 was a good OS. Still is, security patches notwithstanding.

              Nothing to do with latest and greatest. This is simply getting up-to-date to be secure and stable. 2003 was not a stable operating system it was almost constantly moments away from failing spectacularly. R2 made it more stable but still not as good as 2008R2 or 2012R2.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said

                Nothing to do with latest and greatest. This is simply getting up-to-date to be secure and stable. 2003 was not a stable operating system it was almost constantly moments away from failing spectacularly. R2 made it more stable but still not as good as 2008R2 or 2012R2.

                All depends on what you do.

                For my smaller business needs I have never had any issues.

                Of course now today I am expecting a spectacular failing.

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                • Deleted74295D
                  Deleted74295 Banned @BRRABill
                  last edited by Deleted74295

                  @BRRABill said in Remove Non-Existent DC's:

                  The new 2003 server I stood up on modern hardware and SSDs was blazing.

                  I had to do a double take.

                  New 2003 server? Tell us more.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @Deleted74295
                    last edited by

                    @Breffni-Potter said

                    I had to do a double take.

                    New 2003 server? Tell us more.

                    I posted a little earlier in the thread.

                    To facilitate a P2V move of other DCs.

                    We are waiting for 2016 to come out.

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                    • Deleted74295D
                      Deleted74295 Banned @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in Remove Non-Existent DC's:

                      @Breffni-Potter said

                      I had to do a double take.

                      New 2003 server? Tell us more.

                      I posted a little earlier in the thread.

                      Whoops, so you did.

                      The 2003 box is not public facing though right?

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @Deleted74295
                        last edited by

                        @Breffni-Potter said

                        The 2003 box is not public facing though right?

                        No.

                        But even still, are there any unpatched breaches is the wild? Not that I have heard of.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @Deleted74295
                          last edited by

                          @Breffni-Potter said in Remove Non-Existent DC's:

                          @BRRABill said in Remove Non-Existent DC's:

                          The new 2003 server I stood up on modern hardware and SSDs was blazing.

                          I had to do a double take.

                          New 2003 server? Tell us more.

                          Read earlier in the thread. Basically waiting till Server 2016 comes out to update to the most recent version.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @BRRABill said in Remove Non-Existent DC's:

                            The new 2003 server I stood up on modern hardware and SSDs was blazing.

                            I know ML loves the latest and greatest, but 2003 was a good OS. Still is, security patches notwithstanding.

                            It was mediocre. It was slow and lacked key features even in its heyday. It was the last of the NT5 line and did okay. 2003 R2 was a big better, 2003 was meh. It only seemed good because 2000 had been so horrible.

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                            • Deleted74295D
                              Deleted74295 Banned
                              last edited by Deleted74295

                              I spun up a 2012 R2 box and a 2003 box this evening for a test.

                              Identical VM specs, ram, CPU the lot.

                              Man oh man is that 2003 box slow. The 03 box was still shutting down by the time the 12 box had restarted and come back.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
                                last edited by

                                @Breffni-Potter said in Remove Non-Existent DC's:

                                I spun up a 2012 R2 box and a 2003 box this evening for a test.

                                Identical VM specs, ram, CPU the lot.

                                Man oh man is that 2003 box slow. The 03 box was still shutting down by the time the 12 box had restarted and come back.

                                Yeah, 2003 was not all that great. Neither were 2000, 2008 and 2008 R2. But NT 4 and 2012 and later were quite good.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  Alright, people.

                                  It's all I have for now.

                                  Have pity on me!

                                  I do have 2012 and 2016 trial servers set up, so at least there is that.

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                                  • StrongBadS
                                    StrongBad
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                                    Could be worse... I guess. 😛

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