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@BRRABill said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said
I was raised in the north, never in the south. Yet having been to Disney World, gators are very much warned about. I only know that they are such a risk there because Disney makes such a big deal about it.
I never heard a peep about gators when I was at WDW.
Of course we didn't stay by water.
I mean, you wouldn't expect to be in your hotel pool and a gator to pop out at you. This was part of a resort area.
I was born in Louisiana and I don't blame the parents.
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@BRRABill said in Non-IT News Thread:
I mean, you wouldn't expect to be in your hotel pool and a gator to pop out at you. This was part of a resort area.
Sort of. It is a wild part of the resort area, not a pool. It's a lake formed from a central Florida swamp. It's a no swimming, no submersion area because of safety concerns (mostly around parasites in the water - this started about three years ago, I believe) and does not have the people or the protection that it would if it were a resort swimming area. I've been in WDW in the last five years and these areas are often totally empty and while they look like beaches, they have no people on them (typically) and are left to go decently wild.
In other parts of Florida you do indeed expect any open, natural swamp water area to potentially have gators. Disney used to even talk about all of the gators on the automated messages that played on the Monorail "radio" while to moved between areas as they bragged about the open, undisturbed miles of swamp land between the MK and EPCOT.
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@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@BRRABill said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said
I was raised in the north, never in the south. Yet having been to Disney World, gators are very much warned about. I only know that they are such a risk there because Disney makes such a big deal about it.
I never heard a peep about gators when I was at WDW.
Of course we didn't stay by water.
I mean, you wouldn't expect to be in your hotel pool and a gator to pop out at you. This was part of a resort area.
I was born in Louisiana and I don't blame the parents.
I'm not blaming them, I don't know enough of the situation. Just pointing out that there has been, at least traditionally, tons of warnings and standard knowledge that the area is rather stocked with gators and that it's not even slightly unreasonable to expect them to be in that area.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@BRRABill said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said
I was raised in the north, never in the south. Yet having been to Disney World, gators are very much warned about. I only know that they are such a risk there because Disney makes such a big deal about it.
I never heard a peep about gators when I was at WDW.
Of course we didn't stay by water.
I mean, you wouldn't expect to be in your hotel pool and a gator to pop out at you. This was part of a resort area.
I was born in Louisiana and I don't blame the parents.
I'm not blaming them, I don't know enough of the situation. Just pointing out that there has been, at least traditionally, tons of warnings and standard knowledge that the area is rather stocked with gators and that it's not even slightly unreasonable to expect them to be in that area.
I don't mean you specifically. It's everyone on social media vilifying them
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Not only that but they do have some openly publicized relationship with the Florida Wildlife and Game Commission (I think that's what they are called) and the agency that manages the everglades. They have daily sweeps of this swamp area to find and remove gators that are found.
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I think both camps are too extreme. There is no way to know if the parents should be blamed. There is also no evidence that they should not be. It is very reasonable that they did nothing wrong. It is also totally reasonable to expect someone to know that Florida swamp water has gators and that gators attack small children.
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@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@BRRABill said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said
I was raised in the north, never in the south. Yet having been to Disney World, gators are very much warned about. I only know that they are such a risk there because Disney makes such a big deal about it.
I never heard a peep about gators when I was at WDW.
Of course we didn't stay by water.
I mean, you wouldn't expect to be in your hotel pool and a gator to pop out at you. This was part of a resort area.
I was born in Louisiana and I don't blame the parents.
I'm not blaming them, I don't know enough of the situation. Just pointing out that there has been, at least traditionally, tons of warnings and standard knowledge that the area is rather stocked with gators and that it's not even slightly unreasonable to expect them to be in that area.
I don't mean you specifically. It's everyone on social media vilifying them
I understand. It's a horrible situation. The benefit of the discussion is just generally raising awareness as to the dangers of places like Florida. There is no such thing as safe water in Florida outside of a controlled pool and only there when you have full visibility.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
I think both camps are too extreme. There is no way to know if the parents should be blamed. There is also no evidence that they should not be. It is very reasonable that they did nothing wrong. It is also totally reasonable to expect someone to know that Florida swamp water has gators and that gators attack small children.
This was the number one rule when growing up in Florida (for two years thankfully no more then that) don't go near the water, even a backyard pool, unless an adult checks it out first. I don't expect people coming in to Florida to know that but we were told by our neighbor the first day we moved in.
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
I think both camps are too extreme. There is no way to know if the parents should be blamed. There is also no evidence that they should not be. It is very reasonable that they did nothing wrong. It is also totally reasonable to expect someone to know that Florida swamp water has gators and that gators attack small children.
This was the number one rule when growing up in Florida (for two years thankfully no more then that) don't go near the water, even a backyard pool, unless an adult checks it out first. I don't expect people coming in to Florida to know that but we were told by our neighbor the first day we moved in.
I think a lot of people feel that Florida water safety should be common knowledge across the country. It sure seems like common knowledge to me. No one needed to tell me to stay away from water there as a kid.
Maybe people feel that it is like sharks and an overblown fear and so ignore it like they have to with sharks in the ocean or aeroplanes. Sadly, this one is a real threat.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
I think both camps are too extreme. There is no way to know if the parents should be blamed. There is also no evidence that they should not be. It is very reasonable that they did nothing wrong. It is also totally reasonable to expect someone to know that Florida swamp water has gators and that gators attack small children.
This was the number one rule when growing up in Florida (for two years thankfully no more then that) don't go near the water, even a backyard pool, unless an adult checks it out first. I don't expect people coming in to Florida to know that but we were told by our neighbor the first day we moved in.
I think a lot of people feel that Florida water safety should be common knowledge across the country. It sure seems like common knowledge to me. No one needed to tell me to stay away from water there as a kid.
Maybe people feel that it is like sharks and an overblown fear and so ignore it like they have to with sharks in the ocean or aeroplanes. Sadly, this one is a real threat.
I think the only reason I knew about it was because my stepfathers family had a vacation home in FL. If I had never been there I probably would not know now honestly. Still to this day I'm more worried about methheads on bath salts than I am alligators when it comes to Florida.
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@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
I think both camps are too extreme. There is no way to know if the parents should be blamed. There is also no evidence that they should not be. It is very reasonable that they did nothing wrong. It is also totally reasonable to expect someone to know that Florida swamp water has gators and that gators attack small children.
This was the number one rule when growing up in Florida (for two years thankfully no more then that) don't go near the water, even a backyard pool, unless an adult checks it out first. I don't expect people coming in to Florida to know that but we were told by our neighbor the first day we moved in.
I think a lot of people feel that Florida water safety should be common knowledge across the country. It sure seems like common knowledge to me. No one needed to tell me to stay away from water there as a kid.
Maybe people feel that it is like sharks and an overblown fear and so ignore it like they have to with sharks in the ocean or aeroplanes. Sadly, this one is a real threat.
I think the only reason I knew about it was because my stepfathers family had a vacation home in FL. If I had never been there I probably would not know now honestly. Still to this day I'm more worried about methheads on bath salts than I am alligators when it comes to Florida.
The high risk of meth heads in no way diminishes the threat of gators
I think that it is similar to Amazon or Nile safety. I believe that anyone with a high school diploma should be able to tell you that the Amazon and Orinoco Rivers are dangerous because or piranha and parasites or that the Nile is dangerous from crocs (which are now in Florida as well!!!!)
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Brexit polls have just closed.
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19:1 in favor of staying. How did that even get up for a vote if support for exit was nonexistent?
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I just saw with 5% reporting that it was 51:49 for exiting hopefully that gets better tomorrow morning.
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yeah, it's leaning towards an exit, but early polls show staying... and the market moved that way. It's looking like a market crisis now.
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They've called for the Brexit now. And the Pound is below 1985 levels at $1.33. This is epic.
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Wow...didn't really expect Brexit to happen.
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Now to see if I can buy some BRP tomorrow morning at the bank.
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@brianlittlejohn Nope... and it shouldn't happen in case of such a small majority.
Brexit: UK votes to leave EU in historic referendum
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36615028EU referendum: Pound hits lowest level since 1985
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36611512 -
@thwr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@brianlittlejohn Nope... and it shouldn't happen in case of such a small majority.
And should not happen when split regionally as it is, either. This is terrible misuse of the political system. A "within margin of error" majority can, at an time, cause irreparable damage to the country? That's insane. Even the US is not that bad. And the US has some terrible political systems.
