The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3
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@MattSpeller The best place is probably just clicking around through http://www.scalecomputing.com/ as a starting point. If you want to see it in action though, we have a weekly demo that our office of the CTO usually runs:
It is pretty informal and gives a chance for a lot of questions to be answered as we show the UI/features. Let me know if there are any questions I can answer in the meantime!
Craig M. Theriac
Director of Product Management
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@craig.theriac Thank you, I will dive in
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@MattSpeller said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:
@craig.theriac Thank you, I will dive in
Any specific questions that I can answer for you?
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@scale said:
Any specific questions that I can answer for you?
Do you have a affordable solution for small businesses that doesn't cost 25K?
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@aaronstuder said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:
@scale said:
Any specific questions that I can answer for you?
Do you have a affordable solution for small businesses that doesn't cost 25K?
25K isn't affordable? I'm not sure why you would look at Scale in a single host environment. This solution doesn't seem to fit there.
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@coliver said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:
@aaronstuder said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:
@scale said:
Any specific questions that I can answer for you?
Do you have a affordable solution for small businesses that doesn't cost 25K?
25K isn't affordable? I'm not sure why you would look at Scale in a single host environment. This solution doesn't seem to fit there.
While this is true... Selling Single nodes could be a viable idea for a small business that could grow into a second server down the road... I always wondered why they don't sell single nodes to start with...
@craig-theriac : Has Scale ever considered selling single nodes for small businesses?
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@dafyre said:
@craig-theriac : Has Scale ever considered selling single nodes for small businesses?
Two is one, and one is none.
It would need to be at least 2 nodes.
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@dafyre i cannot confirm nor deny
@aaronstuder let me know / send me a DM if you want to jump on a call to go through our roadmap. I'd love to learn more about your requirements for a lower end solution. -
@aaronstuder said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:
@dafyre said:
@craig-theriac : Has Scale ever considered selling single nodes for small businesses?
Two is one, and one is none.
It would need to be at least 2 nodes.
Ideally, you are correct. But if I only need a single server, why plunk down $25k for two Scale nodes when I can buy a Dell of decent quality and similar specs and install $hypervisor myself? ... Granted an SMB isn't likely to think like that, lol.
Don't get me wrong -- I've enjoyed working with the Scale team and their systems! That was just a burning question always in the back of my mind.
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@dafyre said:
Ideally, you are correct. But if I only need a single server, why plunk down $25k for two Scale nodes when I can buy a Dell of decent quality and similar specs and install $hypervisor myself? ... Granted an SMB isn't likely to think like that, lol.
Don't get me wrong -- I've enjoyed working with the Scale team and their systems! That was just a burning question always in the back of my mind.
It's in the back of my mind too. Hoping @craig.theriac could tell us why there better
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@dafyre said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:
@aaronstuder said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:
@dafyre said:
@craig-theriac : Has Scale ever considered selling single nodes for small businesses?
Two is one, and one is none.
It would need to be at least 2 nodes.
Ideally, you are correct. But if I only need a single server, why plunk down $25k for two Scale nodes when I can buy a Dell of decent quality and similar specs and install $hypervisor myself? ... Granted an SMB isn't likely to think like that, lol.
Don't get me wrong -- I've enjoyed working with the Scale team and their systems! That was just a burning question always in the back of my mind.
That's our current SMB setup - several 1/2U dell servers w/ hyperv. Not sure where / how Scale would help us but honestly that's probably because I've yet to read their specs etc.
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@MattSpeller Just one server? We do the same, but 2 servers at each site.
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@aaronstuder said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:
@MattSpeller Just one server? We do the same, but 2 servers at each site.
We're at 5 at primary, 2 at secondary, 1 at a remote
Could probably replace the 5 with two current nicely spec'd ones but $$$$$$$$$$$$
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@MattSpeller You sound like us
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@aaronstuder said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:
@MattSpeller You sound like us
Broke SMB sounds similar the world over heheh
#not4profitlife
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1 & 2. Sure.
3 - Well Hyper-v and Xen-server are free.
4 - Is an all your eggs in one basket model. Which can be risky too.
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@Breffni-Potter said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:
1 & 2. Sure.
3 - Well Hyper-v and Xen-server are free.
4 - Is an all your eggs in one basket model. Which can be risky too.
4... Backup, backup, backup!
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@dafyre said
4... Backup, backup, backup!
Backups funnily enough don't work for.
- Hardware availability. Can I get a replacement node? If so how quickly.
- If the software part of the hyper-visor all in one magic box breaks and I lose all 3 nodes, what then.
- Scale takes away a lot of the tech from the technician to make it easier which is good but when that tech fails, what can you do.
Now, I like the Scale model but it's still a magic box in the corner.
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@Breffni-Potter said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:
@dafyre said
4... Backup, backup, backup!
Backups funnily enough don't work for.
- Hardware availability. Can I get a replacement node? If so how quickly.
- If the software part of the hyper-visor all in one magic box breaks and I lose all 3 nodes, what then.
- Scale takes away a lot of the tech from the technician to make it easier which is good but when that tech fails, what can you do.
Now, I like the Scale model but it's still a magic box in the corner.
Yeah, that is a perfectly valid point... and I think that is why their starter kits are more than one node, lol.
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@dafyre said
Yeah, that is a perfectly valid point... and I think that is why their starter kits are more than one node, lol.
Yes, but even if I buy 500 nodes, the software is the single point of failure.
Look at Microsoft Azure.
They've not had hardware problems, Not lost data centres, their issues have been software based.
