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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @alex.olynyk
      last edited by

      @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

      @Dashrender said in Certbot:

      Hold the phone here -

      JB pointed out to me that the ipconfig you posted is from your DC.

      THAT majorly changes things.

      You can point to yourself for DNS on a DC - in your case you don't need to, because have 6 DNS servers.

      You need to change the Domain Controller's DNS to all point to other DNS servers on your network. The primary one should point to another Local DNS server if there is one, the secondary can be local or remote. If there are no other local DNS, you have no choice but to have the primary point to another DNS that is remote.

      0_1464271528426_Capture.PNG
      128.1 is the only DC/DNS on site so its pointing to 118.5 which is a DC/DNS server at a remote site.

      Gods, what a train wreck, but I keep coming back...

      The DNS setting in the NIC for a DC (assuming it is also a DNS server) should ALWAYS point to itself first.

      It should never point to anything else first.

      DNS 1: 127.0.0.1
      DNS 2: Some other INTERNAL DNS server

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch said in Certbot:

        @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

        @Dashrender said in Certbot:

        Hold the phone here -

        JB pointed out to me that the ipconfig you posted is from your DC.

        THAT majorly changes things.

        You can point to yourself for DNS on a DC - in your case you don't need to, because have 6 DNS servers.

        You need to change the Domain Controller's DNS to all point to other DNS servers on your network. The primary one should point to another Local DNS server if there is one, the secondary can be local or remote. If there are no other local DNS, you have no choice but to have the primary point to another DNS that is remote.

        128.1 is the only DC/DNS on site so its pointing to 118.5 which is a DC/DNS server at a remote site.

        Gods, what a train wreck, but I keep coming back...

        The DNS setting in the NIC for a DC (assuming it is also a DNS server) should ALWAYS point to itself first.

        It should never point to anything else first.

        DNS 1: 127.0.0.1
        DNS 2: Some other INTERNAL DNS server

        Once you have that setup right, everything in the local office will immediately start working right.

        Next, you need to look into your DNS configuration, because in theory, you should have still been working if your DNS was properly replicating between all of your servers.

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        • A
          Alex Sage
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          What DNS addresses are your clients getting from DHCP?

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          • alex.olynykA
            alex.olynyk @Alex Sage
            last edited by

            @aaronstuder said in Certbot:

            What DNS addresses are your clients getting from DHCP?

            we dont use DHCP. Clients are statically assigned 118.5

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            • A
              Alex Sage @alex.olynyk
              last edited by

              @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

              we dont use DHCP. Clients are statically assigned 118.5

              It just gets better, and better.....

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @JaredBusch said in Certbot:

                128.1 is the only DC/DNS on site so its pointing to 118.5 which is a DC/DNS server at a remote site.

                Gods, what a train wreck, but I keep coming back...

                The DNS setting in the NIC for a DC (assuming it is also a DNS server) should ALWAYS point to itself first.

                It should never point to anything else first.

                DNS 1: 127.0.0.1
                DNS 2: Some other INTERNAL DNS server

                OK I'll disagree here. A DC should always point to another DC first and itself second. The assumption is that the other DC will be up and running while this DC is down. This will allow this DC to boot up faster on the assumption that DNS isn't the first thing that comes up.

                I have seen faster reboots because I point to some other DNS server instead itself first.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @alex.olynyk
                  last edited by

                  @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

                  @aaronstuder said in Certbot:

                  What DNS addresses are your clients getting from DHCP?

                  we dont use DHCP. Clients are statically assigned 118.5

                  While I don't understand your lack of use of DHCP, that shouldn't really matter.

                  The clients do need to have DNS entries of only DNS servers within your network, they should never have an DNS entry for something outside your network, like google's 8.8.8.8 or your ISPs DNS servers. That will cause all kinds of problems.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in Certbot:

                    @JaredBusch said in Certbot:

                    128.1 is the only DC/DNS on site so its pointing to 118.5 which is a DC/DNS server at a remote site.

                    Gods, what a train wreck, but I keep coming back...

                    The DNS setting in the NIC for a DC (assuming it is also a DNS server) should ALWAYS point to itself first.

                    It should never point to anything else first.

                    DNS 1: 127.0.0.1
                    DNS 2: Some other INTERNAL DNS server

                    OK I'll disagree here. A DC should always point to another DC first and itself second. The assumption is that the other DC will be up and running while this DC is down. This will allow this DC to boot up faster on the assumption that DNS isn't the first thing that comes up.

                    I have seen faster reboots because I point to some other DNS server instead itself first.

                    Microsoft agrees with you, but I have dealt with too many issue like this to like that answer.

                    Faster or slower is not really relevant. If you are relying on DC reboot speed for anything in your network, you have some other issues.

                    Relevant to the topic, his DNS is obviously hosed because it is not resolving right. So set it to 127.0.0.1 first and then secondary to the other DNS server. make sure everything works, then figure out what is going wrong with DNS replication.

                    Once that is then resolved, you can change the DC to point to the other first again.

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                    • alex.olynykA
                      alex.olynyk
                      last edited by

                      [192.168.128.1]: PS C:\Windows\system32> ipconfig /all

                      Windows IP Configuration

                      Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : RV-DC1
                      Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : ROSE.internal
                      Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
                      IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                      WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                      DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ROSE.internal

                      Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 6:

                      Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
                      Description . . . . . . . . . . . : New Virtual Network
                      Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : F0-4D-A2-0A-D2-F5
                      DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
                      Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
                      IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.128.1(Preferred)
                      Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
                      Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.128.254
                      DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
                      192.168.118.5
                      NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @alex.olynyk
                        last edited by

                        @alex.olynyk and what does nslookup report now.

                        Come on think man. Can you not post the obvious next question without being led to water?

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          Does it work now?

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                          • alex.olynykA
                            alex.olynyk
                            last edited by

                            Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.14342]
                            (c) 2016 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

                            C:\Users\Alex>nslookup
                            Default Server: UnKnown
                            Address: 192.168.128.1

                            server 192.168.128.1
                            Default Server: [192.168.128.1]
                            Address: 192.168.128.1

                            owncloud.roseradiology.com
                            Server: [192.168.128.1]
                            Address: 192.168.128.1

                            Non-authoritative answer:
                            Name: owncloud.roseradiology.com
                            Address: 209.156.58.217

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by Dashrender

                              is DNS installed on RV-DC1?

                              I mean, yeah it's a DC (we think) and the default is to install DNS on all DCs, but you don't have to.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @alex.olynyk
                                last edited by

                                @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

                                Non-authoritative answer:
                                Name: owncloud.roseradiology.com
                                Address: 209.156.58.217

                                This is the part that does not make sense now.
                                why does it think it's non-authoritative?

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @alex.olynyk
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender Thsi is what he had a couple days ago.

                                  @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

                                  0_1464215393881_Capture.PNG

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in Certbot:

                                    is DNS installed on RV-DC1?

                                    I mean, yeah it's a DC (we think) and the default is to install DNS on all DCs, but you don't have to.

                                    Actually I take this back. NSLOOKUP I think is telling us that 192.168.128.1 is a DNS server, and we know that RV-DC1 is that IP address from the previous post.

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                                    • alex.olynykA
                                      alex.olynyk @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by alex.olynyk

                                      @JaredBusch said in Certbot:

                                      @Dashrender Thsi is what he had a couple days ago.

                                      @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

                                      0_1464215393881_Capture.PNG

                                      Yes, but i had to delete the roseradiology.com zone because mail and www were not working internally. I cant do this until I know it works.Even though I added the A records to the zone

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                                      • alex.olynykA
                                        alex.olynyk @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in Certbot:

                                        is DNS installed on RV-DC1?

                                        I mean, yeah it's a DC (we think) and the default is to install DNS on all DCs, but you don't have to.

                                        0_1464276774361_Capture.PNG

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @alex.olynyk
                                          last edited by

                                          @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

                                          Yes, but i had to delete the roseradiology.com zone because mail and www were not working internally. I cant do this until I know it works.

                                          http://wheresmysammich.com/images/29387.jpg

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @alex.olynyk
                                            last edited by

                                            @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Certbot:

                                            @Dashrender Thsi is what he had a couple days ago.

                                            @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

                                            0_1464215393881_Capture.PNG

                                            Yes, but i had to delete the roseradiology.com zone because mail and www were not working internally. I cant do this until I know it works.Even though I added the A records to the zone

                                            DUDE - really? we can't help you if you keep removing the changes we tell you to make.

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