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      Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

      @Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

      @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

      @Jason but didn't we just agree the DVD is now the backup? The only reason I did it was because we don't have computers with DVD drives anymore.

      Will only one person at a time be watching the video? Or can multiple people watch that copy at once on your network share.

      Which adds the question, what if you put the original DVD onto a networked DVD drive? People used to do that.

      The Drive would likely thrash too much to be usable anyway..

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        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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        @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

        That's no problem here, our license allows for anyone working for the company to view it.

        Sure, that's common. The question becomes... how many can view it at the same time.

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          Deleted74295 Banned
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          The proof is in who can access the data.

          If the data sits on my personal "server" and I am the only one to access it, that's a digital backup for me. If the data sits on a server where multiple people can access it, that's different.

          @aaronstuder said

          No you buy a license for that kind of purpose.

          That's no problem here, our license allows for anyone working for the company to view it.

          Cool. Ask the company who supplied it to you for a digital copy. 🙂

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            scottalanmiller @Jason
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            @Jason said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

            The Drive would likely thrash too much to be usable anyway..

            That's the theory, but thanks to high speed drives and cache mechanisms, it takes very little to serve a LOT of video.

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              scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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              @Breffni-Potter said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

              The proof is in who can access the data.

              If the data sits on my personal "server" and I am the only one to access it, that's a digital backup for me. If the data sits on a server where multiple people can access it, that's different.

              @aaronstuder said

              No you buy a license for that kind of purpose.

              That's no problem here, our license allows for anyone working for the company to view it.

              Cool. Ask the company who supplied it to you for a digital copy. 🙂

              Well, a DVD is a digital copy. He needs a "handy" copy.

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                scottalanmiller
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                This is one of those tough ones where was is logical, seemingly logical and legal don't necessarily mix. It all comes down to complexities of US laws.

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                  Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                  Sure, that's common. The question becomes... how many can view it at the same time.

                  The video is only shown by our safety person in the conferance room during training. There could be up to 12 people in there, but they all work for the company.

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                    Alex Sage
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                    Keep in mind this isn't like a $20 DVD... Each DVD is about $500 each...

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                      JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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                      @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                      Sure, that's common. The question becomes... how many can view it at the same time.

                      The video is only shown by our safety person in the conferance room during training. There could be up to 12 people in there, but they all work for the company.

                      And that sounds like it easily falls within the license granted, but your immediate responses do not imply this.

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                        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                        @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                        Sure, that's common. The question becomes... how many can view it at the same time.

                        The video is only shown by our safety person in the conferance room during training. There could be up to 12 people in there, but they all work for the company.

                        That sounds fine. It's the network share and how many different display units can show it at once is the bigger concern, I think.

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                          Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller I understand what your saying. I guess what I am saying it, what different does it make if 30 people watch it 30 times, or 30 people watch it 1 time? And if the 30 people aren't watching them it at the same time, then that's OK? How is that any different then 30 people in a conference room? All 30 people are watching it at the same time.....In this case, no ones know where the videos are located besides the safety person (and myself), but I get what your saying. There is a chance someone could stumble on them.

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                            JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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                            @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                            @scottalanmiller I understand what your saying. I guess what I am saying it, what different does it make if 30 people watch it 30 times, or 30 people watch it 1 time? And if the 30 people aren't watching them it at the same time, then that's OK? In this case, no ones know where the videos are located besides the safety person (and myself), but I get what your saying. There is a chance someone could stumble on them.

                            No one is saying that the existing laws make sense. You cannot just break the law because you do not like it. Well you can, but then you also are accepting the penalty if caught.

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                              Alex Sage @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                              No one is saying that the existing laws make sense. You cannot just break the law because you do not like it. Well you can, but then you also are accepting the penalty if caught.

                              I have never seen someone get in trouble for copyright laws unless they are selling or distributing copyrighted works.

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                                scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                                @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                                @scottalanmiller I understand what your saying. I guess what I am saying it, what different does it make if 30 people watch it 30 times, or 30 people watch it 1 time?

                                The difference is licensed or not licensed.

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                                  scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                                  @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                                  In this case, no ones know where the videos are located besides the safety person (and myself), but I get what your saying. There is a chance someone could stumble on them.

                                  If people don't know that they are there and they aren't being used concurrently, it sounds fine. That they are accessible over the network is not the same as them being accessed over the network. So, to me, that sounds acceptable. But, of course, proving that it was only not used concurrently might be difficult.

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                                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                                    @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                                    No one is saying that the existing laws make sense. You cannot just break the law because you do not like it. Well you can, but then you also are accepting the penalty if caught.

                                    I have never seen someone get in trouble for copyright laws unless they are selling or distributing copyrighted works.

                                    Ever heard of a Microsoft audit? VMware audit?

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                                      Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                        JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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                                        @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                                        @scottalanmiller You mixing DVD Movie's and software. Let's stay on topic,

                                        No, it is all about licensing. His statement is 100% on target.

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                                          Deleted74295 Banned @Alex Sage
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                                          @aaronstuder said in Breaking Encrption on DVDs:

                                          @scottalanmiller You mixing DVD Movie's and software. Let's stay on topic,

                                          The enforcement rate for media piracy is far far higher than the enforcement rate for dodgy software. You can thank the big Hollywood conglomerates for that.

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                                            Alex Sage @Deleted74295
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                                            @Breffni-Potter Yup

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