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It is easy to blame Texas for these things, and their culture of anti-education (they have education shaming as a regular thing) and their insular nature combined with the massive physical size and most of the state being empty and ignored (literally, it's just empty) causes people to often have no idea what is outside of TX or where things are. But everywhere as similar issues, for the most part. People who don't travel rarely have a scope of distance, culture and other artefacts. That people in NY have any of the effect that we see in TX while being in a small state with other major states never over two hours away, and has multiple international borders and all of the biggest border cities is just as bad. There is zero excuse for it in NY, yet it was at least half as common as in Texas.
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I'm betting outside the few major metros in the fly over states all have the same problem.
How do we compare to Europe, and small towns there?
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@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
I'm betting outside the few major metros in the fly over states all have the same problem.
How do we compare to Europe, and small towns there?
As far as geographic education? I think it is better here for a lot of semi-obvious reasons (at least if you have had the chance to see the area.)
Some of the totally benign reasons that Europe sees the world differently geographically:
- Their borders have changed a lot more and aren't these permanent, eternal state borders like in the US.
- Their countries are small and nearly anyone could drive to numerous foreign countries with minimal effort.
- Other countries tend to be extremely different from their own; language, culture, history, food and even religion can differ over just a few miles.
- Even inside most countries there are a variety of languages, even official ones. Spain, for example, has five or six official languages! Romania has three and several others that are common.
- Distance to totally separate regions is easy. All of Europe can get to Africa easier than most of the US can get to Mexico. Asia is only nominally farther away.
- European possessions all over the world are typically full fledged European communities so people tend to travel to and from, more.
- Migratory work is more common. Our neighbour here is off in Germany for two months raspberry picking. They will go to Italy in a different season for some other work.
- Travel is cheaper and easier. Driving is about the same. But there are simple and cheap trains and planes to just everywhere. Plus ferries. The ubiquitous public transport mechanisms make getting to another country so easy.
- Youth travel is promoted and cheap. So even relatively poor Europeans can travel extensively.
- General safety makes travel much more viable.
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Oh, and of course, in the US we have to learn about "history over there" and "US history" as if they are unrelated subjects. In Europe, all of that "Ancient Greece" and Rome and Byzantium and the Mongols, and the World Wars and all of those things are... local. That's their history. So the interest in and study of their own location is much more common.
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
I've had affluent, well educated New Yorkers who think that Canada is a state or that the northern US border, just two counties away from them, was France. That the average person has little to no grasp of geography should not be a surprise.
I haven't been to the north East, but I've been to the south East. I live in southern Idaho. If you're not aware, the KKK used to have a huge compound in northern Idaho (about 8 hours away). Our state is famous for potatoes... but also tech. Micron is about 5 miles from my house and they're worth a bit of money. We also have an Oracle building and some other tech companies.
Everyone I met in Florida: "Where are you from?"
Me: "Idaho."
FL: "Iowa? That's cool."
Me: "No, Idaho."
FL: "Oooooh.... OHIO... Got it."
Me: "No! Idaho! The state between Montana and Washington."
FL: "The one with the KKK? Are you all racist then?"
Me: "That was a small radical group in the north... like 20 years ago. No, all of Idaho doesn't share that same view."
FL: "So you're probably a potato farmer then, runs in the family? Idaho Famous Potatoes?"
Me: "We have good potatoes, but we aren't all stupid racist potato farmers. The hell is the matter with you people?"
I was talking to like 6 people in a group (sober), and this was a round robin of questions like this. They were completely serious.
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@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
I've had affluent, well educated New Yorkers who think that Canada is a state or that the northern US border, just two counties away from them, was France. That the average person has little to no grasp of geography should not be a surprise.
I haven't been to the north East, but I've been to the south East. I live in southern Idaho. If you're not aware, the KKK used to have a huge compound in northern Idaho (about 8 hours away). Our state is famous for potatoes... but also tech. Micron is about 5 miles from my house and they're worth a bit of money. We also have an Oracle building and some other tech companies.
Everyone I met in Florida: "Where are you from?"
Me: "Idaho."
FL: "Iowa? That's cool."
Me: "No, Idaho."
FL: "Oooooh.... OHIO... Got it."
Me: "No! Idaho! The state between Montana and Washington."
FL: "The one with the KKK? Are you all racist then?"
Me: "That was a small radical group in the north... like 20 years ago. No, all of Idaho doesn't share that same view."
FL: "So you're probably a potato farmer then, runs in the family? Idaho Famous Potatoes?"
Me: "We have good potatoes, but we aren't all stupid racist potato farmers. The hell is the matter with you people?"
I was talking to like 6 people in a group (sober), and this was a round robin of questions like this. They were completely serious.
I remember meeting highly accelerated students from all over the country in DC when I was a senior. One of the things that the program had to explain to everyone that wasn't from NY, and I remember specifically that the group from NC had issues with this, was that NY was mostly rural and only rural NY was represented and that NYC was not a city that covered the entirety of teh state.
And yet, even after that, people were confused. Isn't all of NY a city?
Seriously? It would have to be a city of several billion people. You could fit the entire planet into a city that size.
The degree to which this was obviously impossible had no effect. Their upbringing left them convinced that "rural" in NY meant the Bronx or something.
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
I've had affluent, well educated New Yorkers who think that Canada is a state or that the northern US border, just two counties away from them, was France. That the average person has little to no grasp of geography should not be a surprise.
I haven't been to the north East, but I've been to the south East. I live in southern Idaho. If you're not aware, the KKK used to have a huge compound in northern Idaho (about 8 hours away). Our state is famous for potatoes... but also tech. Micron is about 5 miles from my house and they're worth a bit of money. We also have an Oracle building and some other tech companies.
Everyone I met in Florida: "Where are you from?"
Me: "Idaho."
FL: "Iowa? That's cool."
Me: "No, Idaho."
FL: "Oooooh.... OHIO... Got it."
Me: "No! Idaho! The state between Montana and Washington."
FL: "The one with the KKK? Are you all racist then?"
Me: "That was a small radical group in the north... like 20 years ago. No, all of Idaho doesn't share that same view."
FL: "So you're probably a potato farmer then, runs in the family? Idaho Famous Potatoes?"
Me: "We have good potatoes, but we aren't all stupid racist potato farmers. The hell is the matter with you people?"
I was talking to like 6 people in a group (sober), and this was a round robin of questions like this. They were completely serious.
I remember meeting highly accelerated students from all over the country in DC when I was a senior. One of the things that the program had to explain to everyone that wasn't from NY, and I remember specifically that the group from NC had issues with this, was that NY was mostly rural and only rural NY was represented and that NYC was not a city that covered the entirety of teh state.
And yet, even after that, people were confused. Isn't all of NY a city?
Seriously? It would have to be a city of several billion people. You could fit the entire planet into a city that size.
The degree to which this was obviously impossible had no effect. Their upbringing left them convinced that "rural" in NY meant the Bronx or something.
As if all of Washington is Seattle.... Nice.
Get over North Bend and it's farm land for millions of square miles.
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@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
I've had affluent, well educated New Yorkers who think that Canada is a state or that the northern US border, just two counties away from them, was France. That the average person has little to no grasp of geography should not be a surprise.
I haven't been to the north East, but I've been to the south East. I live in southern Idaho. If you're not aware, the KKK used to have a huge compound in northern Idaho (about 8 hours away). Our state is famous for potatoes... but also tech. Micron is about 5 miles from my house and they're worth a bit of money. We also have an Oracle building and some other tech companies.
Everyone I met in Florida: "Where are you from?"
Me: "Idaho."
FL: "Iowa? That's cool."
Me: "No, Idaho."
FL: "Oooooh.... OHIO... Got it."
Me: "No! Idaho! The state between Montana and Washington."
FL: "The one with the KKK? Are you all racist then?"
Me: "That was a small radical group in the north... like 20 years ago. No, all of Idaho doesn't share that same view."
FL: "So you're probably a potato farmer then, runs in the family? Idaho Famous Potatoes?"
Me: "We have good potatoes, but we aren't all stupid racist potato farmers. The hell is the matter with you people?"
I was talking to like 6 people in a group (sober), and this was a round robin of questions like this. They were completely serious.
I remember meeting highly accelerated students from all over the country in DC when I was a senior. One of the things that the program had to explain to everyone that wasn't from NY, and I remember specifically that the group from NC had issues with this, was that NY was mostly rural and only rural NY was represented and that NYC was not a city that covered the entirety of teh state.
And yet, even after that, people were confused. Isn't all of NY a city?
Seriously? It would have to be a city of several billion people. You could fit the entire planet into a city that size.
The degree to which this was obviously impossible had no effect. Their upbringing left them convinced that "rural" in NY meant the Bronx or something.
As if all of Washington is Seattle.... Nice.
Get over North Bend and it's farm land for millions of square miles.
...and not good looking farm lands. It's all the scab lands from the (very very old) Montana lake that covered about half the state, blocked by a glacier, and rushed across the state in no time. Taking all the top soil into, now very fertile, Oregon. You can see the scars on a topo map, it's crazy the damage it did. Western Washington is horribly ugly because of it. It's just boulders, brush, and gravel pits. /digress
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@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
I've had affluent, well educated New Yorkers who think that Canada is a state or that the northern US border, just two counties away from them, was France. That the average person has little to no grasp of geography should not be a surprise.
I haven't been to the north East, but I've been to the south East. I live in southern Idaho. If you're not aware, the KKK used to have a huge compound in northern Idaho (about 8 hours away). Our state is famous for potatoes... but also tech. Micron is about 5 miles from my house and they're worth a bit of money. We also have an Oracle building and some other tech companies.
Everyone I met in Florida: "Where are you from?"
Me: "Idaho."
FL: "Iowa? That's cool."
Me: "No, Idaho."
FL: "Oooooh.... OHIO... Got it."
Me: "No! Idaho! The state between Montana and Washington."
FL: "The one with the KKK? Are you all racist then?"
Me: "That was a small radical group in the north... like 20 years ago. No, all of Idaho doesn't share that same view."
FL: "So you're probably a potato farmer then, runs in the family? Idaho Famous Potatoes?"
Me: "We have good potatoes, but we aren't all stupid racist potato farmers. The hell is the matter with you people?"
I was talking to like 6 people in a group (sober), and this was a round robin of questions like this. They were completely serious.
I remember meeting highly accelerated students from all over the country in DC when I was a senior. One of the things that the program had to explain to everyone that wasn't from NY, and I remember specifically that the group from NC had issues with this, was that NY was mostly rural and only rural NY was represented and that NYC was not a city that covered the entirety of teh state.
And yet, even after that, people were confused. Isn't all of NY a city?
Seriously? It would have to be a city of several billion people. You could fit the entire planet into a city that size.
The degree to which this was obviously impossible had no effect. Their upbringing left them convinced that "rural" in NY meant the Bronx or something.
As if all of Washington is Seattle.... Nice.
Get over North Bend and it's farm land for millions of square miles.
Yeah, much like that.
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@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
I've had affluent, well educated New Yorkers who think that Canada is a state or that the northern US border, just two counties away from them, was France. That the average person has little to no grasp of geography should not be a surprise.
I haven't been to the north East, but I've been to the south East. I live in southern Idaho. If you're not aware, the KKK used to have a huge compound in northern Idaho (about 8 hours away). Our state is famous for potatoes... but also tech. Micron is about 5 miles from my house and they're worth a bit of money. We also have an Oracle building and some other tech companies.
Everyone I met in Florida: "Where are you from?"
Me: "Idaho."
FL: "Iowa? That's cool."
Me: "No, Idaho."
FL: "Oooooh.... OHIO... Got it."
Me: "No! Idaho! The state between Montana and Washington."
FL: "The one with the KKK? Are you all racist then?"
Me: "That was a small radical group in the north... like 20 years ago. No, all of Idaho doesn't share that same view."
FL: "So you're probably a potato farmer then, runs in the family? Idaho Famous Potatoes?"
Me: "We have good potatoes, but we aren't all stupid racist potato farmers. The hell is the matter with you people?"
I was talking to like 6 people in a group (sober), and this was a round robin of questions like this. They were completely serious.
I remember meeting highly accelerated students from all over the country in DC when I was a senior. One of the things that the program had to explain to everyone that wasn't from NY, and I remember specifically that the group from NC had issues with this, was that NY was mostly rural and only rural NY was represented and that NYC was not a city that covered the entirety of teh state.
And yet, even after that, people were confused. Isn't all of NY a city?
Seriously? It would have to be a city of several billion people. You could fit the entire planet into a city that size.
The degree to which this was obviously impossible had no effect. Their upbringing left them convinced that "rural" in NY meant the Bronx or something.
As if all of Washington is Seattle.... Nice.
Get over North Bend and it's farm land for millions of square miles.
...and not good looking farm lands. It's all the scab lands from the (very very old) Montana lake that covered about half the state, blocked by a glacier, and rushed across the state in no time. Taking all the top soil into, now very fertile, Oregon. You can see the scars on a topo map, it's crazy the damage it did. Western Washington is horribly ugly because of it. It's just boulders, brush, and gravel pits. /digress
Wait until you see Western NY at MangoCon. Massive canyon, big waterfalls all over, rolling wine country....
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
If you're going to go as far as retirement, then you have to go all the way and start building tons of retirement towers to put those retirees.
What's wrong with that? I don't see the negative there.
That is, in fact, what is happening here in Canada. Boomer generation is getting close and with foresight retirement homes and long term care homes are popping up in droves.
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@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
If you're going to go as far as retirement, then you have to go all the way and start building tons of retirement towers to put those retirees.
What's wrong with that? I don't see the negative there.
That is, in fact, what is happening here in Canada. Boomer generation is getting close and with foresight retirement homes and long term care homes are popping up in droves.
Seems a tab too early for that. First boomers are just seventy this year!
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
If you're going to go as far as retirement, then you have to go all the way and start building tons of retirement towers to put those retirees.
What's wrong with that? I don't see the negative there.
That is, in fact, what is happening here in Canada. Boomer generation is getting close and with foresight retirement homes and long term care homes are popping up in droves.
Seems a tab too early for that. First boomers are just seventy this year!
Given the state of our health care system I consider this preparation to be an honest to god miracle
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@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
If you're going to go as far as retirement, then you have to go all the way and start building tons of retirement towers to put those retirees.
What's wrong with that? I don't see the negative there.
That is, in fact, what is happening here in Canada. Boomer generation is getting close and with foresight retirement homes and long term care homes are popping up in droves.
Seems a tab too early for that. First boomers are just seventy this year!
Given the state of our health care system I consider this preparation to be an honest to god miracle
What age do people typically start going into homes? 75? 80?
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Only had one great uncle that went into one, probably when he was 85, would be my guess.
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
If you're going to go as far as retirement, then you have to go all the way and start building tons of retirement towers to put those retirees.
What's wrong with that? I don't see the negative there.
That is, in fact, what is happening here in Canada. Boomer generation is getting close and with foresight retirement homes and long term care homes are popping up in droves.
Seems a tab too early for that. First boomers are just seventy this year!
Given the state of our health care system I consider this preparation to be an honest to god miracle
What age do people typically start going into homes? 75? 80?
Lots of these are for disabilities, not all for elderly. They are also being used as social housing in the short term to take care of our huge problem with homelessness. I'm hoping with the new liberal government that we see more safe injection sites soon too.
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Amazing what gets accomplished when Quebec runs the show instead of Ontario
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
If you're going to go as far as retirement, then you have to go all the way and start building tons of retirement towers to put those retirees.
What's wrong with that? I don't see the negative there.
That is, in fact, what is happening here in Canada. Boomer generation is getting close and with foresight retirement homes and long term care homes are popping up in droves.
Seems a tab too early for that. First boomers are just seventy this year!
Given the state of our health care system I consider this preparation to be an honest to god miracle
What age do people typically start going into homes? 75? 80?
It's not always age. You also have to figure in dementia if the resident is unlucky enough to have that disease.
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@tonyshowoff said in Hours I work/PTO:
@BBigford said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Man, I would love to go to this. But I don't get PTO, let alone paid travel to super awesome conventions.
How many (unpaid) vacation days do you get a year? Don't many Americans get something like four?
Unpaid vacation days? Well I worked on Christmas. That probably answers your question about time off. I'm lucky if I get the weekend off without someone bugging me about stuff that can wait till Monday.
