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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Here is what I'm thinking based off of what little I know...

      If local storage is needed, Synology or ReadyNAS that gets backed up.

      Nothing else, it's that simple.

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        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

        @thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

        @scottalanmiller said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

        @travisdh1 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

        @thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

        @scottalanmiller said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

        @thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

        1. Would a secondary DC make sense? There are only seven computers in this entire environment right now.

        At seven the rule is not to have DC at all (straight from Microsoft.) It's for 10+ and normally not until you get to 12+.

        Then, in the 12+ category you normally do only one. AD for desktops has almost zero impact when offline, you can go weeks without anyone even noticing. So a failover would be wasted as it would save the company zero money in nearly all cases.

        You only need a failover AD if you have other dependencies on AD that you introduce beyond logins.

        Ok, that was my thinking (regarding failover). And the reason for the DC, even though the environment is small, is because they are looking to grow, and it allows for centralized management (obviously). The guy I'm working with is trying to consolidate a lot of things and if he can not have to touch every computer for a change in something, that'd make sense. That's why I wanted to implement AD. Not because they necessarily need it right now, but for future growth.

        Is he comfortable with CentOS at all? I've setup a SAMBA4 AD environment here, not any more work for me than getting any other type of directory server setup, but if they're not already comfortable with CentOS that idea is probably off the table.

        AJ knows Linux.

        I do, but this guy doesn't. My goal was to get this setup, give him some training, and make it easy enough for him to be able to manage mostly on his own.

        Then no CentOS, and no AD. Rule both of those out on those grounds.

        No central authentication is the answer here. Azure AD if you insist.

        That's the other thing I was thinking about. For such a small business, a cloud server makes a lot of sense. Mitigate the risk, cost of running the equipment (power, cooling, etc), and all that. They have a business-grade Verizon connection at the office. I believe it's FiOS (almost 100% sure of that). So setting them up on Rackspace, Azure, AWS, or the like was something else I was considering.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          A two bay NAS will do the trick here unless I am missing something. Two 4GB drives and a little Unitrends shelf style backup unit and you are good to go. Super simple to manage, very little to break, lots of protection.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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            @thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

            That's the other thing I was thinking about. For such a small business, a cloud server makes a lot of sense. Mitigate the risk, cost of running the equipment (power, cooling, etc), and all that. They have a business-grade Verizon connection at the office. I believe it's FiOS (almost 100% sure of that). So setting them up on Rackspace, Azure, AWS, or the like was something else I was considering.

            No, not AD on Azure, Azure AD, the product. Not IaaS, SaaS.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Are they on Office 365? What do they do for email and such?

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              • thanksajdotcomT
                thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                A two bay NAS will do the trick here unless I am missing something. Two 4GB drives and a little Unitrends shelf style backup unit and you are good to go. Super simple to manage, very little to break, lots of protection.

                I just realized I forgot the biggest part of this whole thing. (facepalm) So he's looking to setup a program that will be used both in the office and in the field. It's a way to create tickets for customers, track equipment, push out notifications to technicians of work, track they have seen it and what they've done, inventory and track parts purchasing, etc. That was why he wanted the server in the first place.

                I can't believe I forgot this...I guess I'm more tired today than I realized. DOH!

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                • thanksajdotcomT
                  thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                  Are they on Office 365? What do they do for email and such?

                  Last I knew (this could have changed), they were using plain old Gmail. Something else I wanted to address with them.

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                  • thanksajdotcomT
                    thanksajdotcom
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                    @thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                    Are they on Office 365? What do they do for email and such?

                    Last I knew (this could have changed), they were using plain old Gmail. Something else I wanted to address with them.

                    Trying not to do too much too fast. That scares people away.

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                      Alex Sage
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                      Your way over building this whole thing.....

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
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                        If I was rebuilding my company from scratch (15 employees) today, I would do it all online. Not even a question.

                        Maybe a Synology in-house to replicate to cloud services.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
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                          Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?

                          Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?

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                            Alex Sage
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                            I still don't understand they need a on-site server. Seems like a perfect opportunity to do everything "in the cloud".

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                              @aaronstuder said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                              I still don't understand they need a on-site server. Seems like a perfect opportunity to do everything "in the cloud".

                              Storage would be the big question. Do they need local storage? If not... grab https://www.smartfile.com/ or get that hosted Datto Drive through @BRRABill and you are all set. Easy peasy zero on site.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @Alex Sage
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                                @aaronstuder said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                                I still don't understand they need a on-site server. Seems like a perfect opportunity to do everything "in the cloud".

                                Agree 100%

                                Once you explain to them what it does for them, they'll be hooked.

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                                • thanksajdotcomT
                                  thanksajdotcom @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                                  Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?

                                  Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?

                                  I actually have no Xen experience...sadly... 😢

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @thanksajdotcom
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                                    @thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                                    Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?

                                    Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?

                                    I actually have no Xen experience...sadly... 😢

                                    It's the most simple Hypervisor out there.

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                                      Alex Sage
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                                      Even if they need a Windows Server (I doubt they do) but if they did I would go ZeroTier and a hosted server.

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                                      • thanksajdotcomT
                                        thanksajdotcom
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                                        I do agree that the more I think about it, the most hosted would make sense. For their current size, it makes a lot more sense than on-premise.

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                                          Alex Sage @thanksajdotcom
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                                          @thanksajdotcom said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Consulting for a Small Construction Company:

                                          Why would you want to reduce cost, and implement Hyper-V and UEB?

                                          Why not XenServer and Xen Orchestra for the Hypervisor?

                                          I actually have no Xen experience...sadly... 😢

                                          You don't need any, it's pretty simple.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said

                                            It's the most simple Hypervisor out there.

                                            It really is easy.

                                            I got a little frustrated at something this week, and decided to consider a move back to Hyper-V. I installed Hyper-V, and no lie was back to XS within the hour.

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