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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @garak0410
      last edited by

      @garak0410 said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      So on a user's system when it is failing, what is an nslookup of the A and CNAMEs returning?

      What is the preferred syntax to check the A and CNAME with NSLOOKUP? Thanks....

      Just....

      nslookup aname
      nslookup CNAME

      Where aname and CNAME are the host names. There is no further syntax.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Did I see that you have two DHCP servers running? There should be only one.

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        • garak0410G
          garak0410 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @garak0410 said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          So on a user's system when it is failing, what is an nslookup of the A and CNAMEs returning?

          What is the preferred syntax to check the A and CNAME with NSLOOKUP? Thanks....

          Just....

          nslookup aname
          nslookup CNAME

          Where aname and CNAME are the host names. There is no further syntax.

          On PC's that had no problem or had a problem, they either NSLOOKUP ANAME or CNAME to the old or new DNS server...and they all end with can't find cname: Non-existent domain (same with aname)

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          • garak0410G
            garak0410
            last edited by

            I noticed on the new DC/DNS server, under the reverse lookup ZONE properties, under NAME SERVERS, the new DC/DNS server shows UNKNOWN...OK to update it?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @garak0410
              last edited by

              @garak0410 said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @garak0410 said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              So on a user's system when it is failing, what is an nslookup of the A and CNAMEs returning?

              What is the preferred syntax to check the A and CNAME with NSLOOKUP? Thanks....

              Just....

              nslookup aname
              nslookup CNAME

              Where aname and CNAME are the host names. There is no further syntax.

              On PC's that had no problem or had a problem, they either NSLOOKUP ANAME or CNAME to the old or new DNS server...and they all end with can't find cname: Non-existent domain (same with aname)

              Sounds like you don't have your search domains defined and you are skipping the FQDN and are trying to use short names.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by Dashrender

                I agree with Scott, you're using short name instead of FQDN (Fully Qualified Domain Names). It's something that started back in the NT days with NetBIOS. You really should replace all \servername\sharename with \severname.domainname.com\sharename

                for your nslookup try 'nslookup olddc.domainname.com' or nslookup newdc.domainname.com

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by Dashrender

                  Would you please post the exact output from ipconfig /all from a working and non working machine

                  should look like the follwing (you can change the same things I did if you want to hide your domain from us).

                  U:>ipconfig /all

                  Windows IP Configuration

                  Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : om1290d2
                  Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domainname.net <- changed to protect
                  Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
                  IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                  WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                  DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domainname.net <- changed to protect

                  Ethernet adapter Tripwire Tunnel Connection:

                  Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
                  Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
                  Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Tripwire TAP Network Adapter
                  Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-FF-CD-xx-xx-xx ** <- changed to protect**
                  DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
                  Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

                  Ethernet adapter vEthernet (New Virtual Switch):

                  Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
                  Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Hyper-V Virtual Ethernet Adapter #2
                  Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : F0-92-1C-xx-xx-xx <- changed to protect
                  DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
                  Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
                  Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4d7d:7ce2:b72c:eb60%9(Preferred)
                  IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.9(Preferred)
                  Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
                  Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.254
                  DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 183538204
                  DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-1A-7B-00-80-F0-92-1C-DD-55-A8

                  DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.19
                  172.16.1.245
                  NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

                  Tunnel adapter isatap.{F24F29C3-326D-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}: <- changed to protect

                  Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
                  Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
                  Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
                  Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
                  DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
                  Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

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                  • garak0410G
                    garak0410 @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    This is from a PC that never lost it's naming to the FILESERVER:

                    Windows IP Configuration

                    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : accounting01
                    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domainname.local
                    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
                    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domainname.local

                    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

                    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : pinnstr.local
                    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
                    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-67-xx-xx-xx
                    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
                    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
                    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::d80:7b35:xx(Preferred)
                    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : xx.xx.xx.xx(Preferred)
                    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
                    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:00:34 AM
                    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:00:01 AM
                    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (our firewall)
                    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (old DC/DNS server)
                    DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234893415
                    DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-17-8D-07-0C-00-30-67-61-63-9C

                    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (new DC/DNS Server)
                    10.xx.xx.xx (old DC/DNS server)
                    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (old DC/DNS server)
                    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

                    Tunnel adapter isatap.domainname.local:

                    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
                    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domainname.local
                    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
                    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
                    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
                    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

                    From a PC I had problems with today (and still do):

                    Windows IP Configuration

                    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : estimating02
                    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domainname.local
                    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
                    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domainname.local

                    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

                    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domainname.local
                    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connec
                    tion
                    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-4F-xx-xx-xx
                    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
                    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
                    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::3156:295c:xx(Preferred)
                    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx(Preferred)
                    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
                    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:14:11 PM
                    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:55:01 AM
                    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (firewall)
                    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.16 (old DC/DNS server)
                    DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234888783
                    DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-1A-61-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx

                    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx(new DC/DNS server)
                    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (old DC/DNS server)
                    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

                    Tunnel adapter isatap.domainname.local:

                    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
                    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domainname.local
                    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
                    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
                    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
                    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      See the search name in the working one? That is missing in the not working one I think.

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                      • garak0410G
                        garak0410 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        See the search name in the working one? That is missing in the not working one I think.

                        I see it in both.

                        Is there any clue as to why this is ONLY name resolution problems to the fileserver and nothing else?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          Can't think of anything. If every setting is the same.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by Dashrender

                            @garak0410 said:

                            Is there any clue as to why this is ONLY name resolution problems to the fileserver and nothing else?

                            Host files, LMHOST files If the other servers are answering to NetBIOS over IP calls where the new file server won't.

                            My biggest guess is the last one.. Windows 2012 server might not be resolving NetBIOS names any more...

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              Assuming you didn't install WINS on your new AD server you should remove the WINS information from all clients and from the DHCP server so it's not handing out that information.
                              This will also cause issues in some cases.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Oh good point. Don't want old WINS mucking about.

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                                • garak0410G
                                  garak0410 @Dashrender
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                                  • garak0410G
                                    garak0410 @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Assuming you didn't install WINS on your new AD server you should remove the WINS information from all clients and from the DHCP server so it's not handing out that information.
                                    This will also cause issues in some cases.

                                    Let me take a look at this.

                                    Now, I KNOW I checked this but I guess I overlooked it and I know it wouldn't just go away. There was no reverse lookup for the file server (services01 is its physical name). I just added it.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @garak0410
                                      last edited by

                                      @garak0410 said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Assuming you didn't install WINS on your new AD server you should remove the WINS information from all clients and from the DHCP server so it's not handing out that information.
                                      This will also cause issues in some cases.

                                      Let me take a look at this.

                                      Now, I KNOW I checked this but I guess I overlooked it and I know it wouldn't just go away. There was no reverse lookup for the file server (services01 is its physical name). I just added it.

                                      Good to have but should not matter.

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                                      • garak0410G
                                        garak0410 @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @garak0410 said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Assuming you didn't install WINS on your new AD server you should remove the WINS information from all clients and from the DHCP server so it's not handing out that information.
                                        This will also cause issues in some cases.

                                        Let me take a look at this.

                                        Now, I KNOW I checked this but I guess I overlooked it and I know it wouldn't just go away. There was no reverse lookup for the file server (services01 is its physical name). I just added it.

                                        Good to have but should not matter.

                                        k...this morning has been rather quiet SO FAR. Only one user had problems.

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                                        • garak0410G
                                          garak0410
                                          last edited by

                                          Thanks for the help on this. I appreciate the positive candor in the midst of gaps in my DNS knowledge...

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            What did you change that seems to have solved the issue?

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